

Barca v Shakhtar, a.k.a. “A win makes it easy.” 1:30 p.m. CT, ESPN Deportes, 4 p.m., CT, ESPN Classic
By: Kevin | September 30th, 2008
And what are you dreaming of, little Xavi? Perhaps a win, which would almost certainly grease the skids for the advance into the knockout rounds, perhaps?
Or maybe you’re dreaming of a couple of goals, shots that don’t thwack against the crossbar?
It’s another Champions League go-round everyone, and this one will be brief. There has been so much written about this match, including an encyclopaedic post by Ramzi, for you frequenters of Pep’s Place.
This match is fraught with danger. The last time we saw them at their home in Champions League competition, we went down like whores when the fleet’s in town, 2-0. It’s payback time.
We and they sit atop Group C, at 3 points each. Even a draw probably gets us through, as we already know we can smack Sporting about, and expect even less bother from Basel.
Being at home, Shakhtar will come out to play, which is good news for us. When sides come out to play with us, it’s next to impossible to argue with our fluency with the ball and variety of attacking options. But expect them to notch a goal or two, as well.
On the down side, we just had an inSANE match at Espanyol, that was also very long. That was Sunday, and here it is Wednesday. Here’s the Shakhtar squad list (the astute will note that Syvinho doesn’t make the squad again):
Valdés, Pinto, Cáceres, Alves, Puyol, Piqué, Márquez, Abidal, Busquets, Touré, Keita, Xavi, Gudjohnsen, Iniesta, Pedro, Bojan, Messi, Henry and Eto’o.
Players in bold played the entire match against Espanyol, so look for many of them to come on as subs, or go off early if we can get a couple of early goals.
It’s difficult to predict a starting XI for the rotation-oriented Guardiola, but I think that being away, he’ll opt for security and tamping down a home side that will be looking to take a big-time scalp. So I see defense, as he knows that with almost any group of attackers, we can do the business in an open match.
So: Valdés, Cáceres, Alves, Márquez, Abidal, Yaya, Keita, Xavi, Pedro, Gudjohnsen, Henry.
I think Henry gets the start to keep Eto’o, Messi and Iniesta in the bag for the big Liga match against Atletico on Saturday, which ain’t a lot of time. They might come in if we need a goal to tie, but given the defensive nature of the lineup, look for a low-scoring game, probably 2-1 us, but don’t be shocked to see a 1-1 draw.
This is a match where we really miss the recuperating Aleksandr Hleb, who would be pressed into the starting XI for sure, probably with Krkic replacing Henry as the striker. But he’s still a week or so away, so we have what we have.
It’s go time.
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Ohh shit, they score!!!damn
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No lo puedo ceer
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Half time 1-0 for the home team:
ball possesion 58% for barca to 42% for shaktar
fouls commited: barca:5 ; 13:shaktar
shots 2(2 on target); 7(2)Posted from
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I think abidal got a shot in his leg, so he wasn’t able to play tonight, no other reason i can think of:)
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here goes the second half..
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apart from that athletico pulled back 2-1 against marseille!
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wow that daniel alves free kick was some serious stuff, the keepers aways seem lucky when they play against us…
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henry leaves for messi…
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NOOOOOOOOOOOO HOW DID ETOO MISS THAT!!??!??!
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another miracle comeback by our boys. Messi with a tap in after keeper drops the Bojan cross.
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okay, miracle may be a bit strong, but Shaktar’s physical play really rattled and disrupted us tonight.
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it only took 93.5 f***ing minutes, but skill finally beats thuggery! Xavi to Messi FTW!!!
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GOoooooooooooooooooooooool fuck yeah. What a pass by xavi and what a finish by messi!!!! Flying over the moon
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Take that, Brandão…!
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Very poor match for 70 mins. More ammunition for those who say we are over-dependant on Messi. Oh well, I am over-reliant on oxygen but it’s not likely that I’ll stop using it anytime soon. Once again he proved himself the best player in the world; not with the first goal but the second was beautiful. Just when you thought that he would try to slide it past the keeper or blast it straight at him, he makes it look like Barca were 4-0 up and were trying tricks.
Bojan was a breath of fresh air when he came on. He showed far more desire than Henry and Eto’o did. He just wants to play and he is damn good at it.
Iniesta was bright as usual. He didn’t get on the ball enough but showed real intention when in possession.
Xavi with yet another assist but was not given any space throughout the match.
Yaya and Keita don’t really look comfortable together. Yaya does the defensive work of two so Keita seemed to be just invading his space. My thinking is either Busquets and Keita or Yaya on his own. Keita was poor and invisible for long periods.
Alves again didn’t quite look himself yet but showed a lot more ability on dead balls.
Marquez, Pique and Puyol were all ok. Puyol will get the blame for the goal conceded but IMO if Pique goes for a header then Marquez needs to drop back 10 yards.
When I was watching it crossed my mind that Abidal may have gotten across with his pace but then again he may have been further forward. I don’t know.
Guardiola definitely did not get the starting XI right but again his substitutions spot on.I’ll go on record to say that more than us deserving the equalizer, Shaktar deserved to concede it. Brandao’s theatrics were ridiculous. He is 6ft 3in tall and is a monster of a man but was diving and rolling around trying to get people booked and kill time. All of their time-wasting came back to bite them.
Returning the ball after an injury is up to the discretion of the team in possession; and I’m guessing had Shakhtar been sportsmanlike in their play Barca would have returned the ball to them. Also, who was to know if they were just feigning injury to let the clock tick down.Posted from
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Whaaaa, whaaaa. Not a game my 3.5-soccer-year-old self does well with….even MY body hurts after that one. I’m gonna have Brandão nightmares all night. Kev, I think Mom needs the Yaya bear tonight (he’s the only thing that scary train-of-a-man slowed down for.)
Well I got my (I mean Ramzi’s) dual striker wish, I think. If we had only agreed to swithcblades instead of crowbars before the rumble maybe it would have worked.
God I hope Messi stays healthy all year.
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“If we had only agreed to swithcblades instead of crowbars before the rumble maybe it would have worked.”
I dont understand that, a very complicated english phrase for me, but nothing of what i wished I saw in this game, neither selection nor structure, I may be just a little cocky fool, but the tactics were too naive to make me happy with the match I watched, again…we won, the other team way – the team that Kxevin give us a fine if we mention its name. No I am not happy.
I will need to train myself so hard to have enough patience till January…. If pep will not be a fast learner…this is going to be a looong season…
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sorry Ramzi…probably many English native speakers won’t get that either! What I was basically saying is that we just saw a “rumble” (fight, dual, gangwar) not a game. So choosing Eto’o or Henry or both for the stiker position, made no difference, first we needed strong weapons for this one…really switchblades AND crowbars (both traditional 1950’s gang rumble weapons of choice.)
–Professor IceMel
(OK not up to Genis’ cultural additions to our blog…but at least I didn’t have to resort to Wikipedia!)Posted from
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Man, I could have watched Brandão and Alves go at it all day. As a (kind of) neutral observer, I think Brandão was doing what he had to do – though it was amazing that he made it almost 90 minutes without a card. In fairness, I think Alves deserved a yellow for that last challenge, it was the second time he’d scythed down Brandão just outside of the box, and the second looked calculated to me.
And La Liga is off to a great start in the CL! Spanish teams have taken 22 of 24 possible points, English 18 of 24, Italy 13 of 24 and France just 2 of 18.
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Thanks IceMel:)
The problem was not the offense.. it was the defense structure and its selection, and the midfielders roles on the field, We fall in shakhtar trap and we played their game and tempo, which is not only the game that don’t suit us, but it also burn our energy like hell, believe me while watching the game and after 30 minutes I was hoping they don’t end the game hitting 3 goals, don’t let the possession and flashy show fools u.Posted from
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Well I’m all out of nails to chew on. Fingernails last Saturday, toenails tonight. Seriously I think this club is trying to give me a heart attack or something. Someone break out the paddles! CLEAAAAR!!
Little Leo does it again, with an assist from the goalkeeper on the first one. Unlike Sampson, Leo hasn’t lost his touch since he cut his locks. As far as Brandão, perhaps he should consider a career move to the WWE..intimidating presence, “theatrics”, “dirty tactics”, he’s got the whole package.
I considered this to be Barcelona’s toughest test in the group stage so I’m not too surprised they had to fight tooth and nail for it, even if they looked a little sluggish and void of ideas for 3/4 of the match. I chalk that up to not having fully recovered from their “brawl” against Espanol. At least for once it’s the other side’s keeper making the blunder. Not the “prettiest” of wins but an “ugly” win beats a “pretty” loss any day of the week.
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EL MESSIAS. Wow. Goddamn. I mean, I’m more mancrush on Toure, of course, but goddamn. I was freaking out here in my hotel room jumping up and down and shouting and generally having a joyous seizure. I’m so glad this hotel has ESPN Classic!
Oh my oh my oh my.
I thought Shaktar were being extraordinarily cynical/lame/unsporting when they asked for the ball back before Messi’s first goal. If the player who was injured was injured during the play that the ball was kicked out on, how can anyone mean to kick it out for them? It was just a clearance and it’s not Barcelona’s fault that they stopped playing. Never. Stop. Playing. All teams should be sporting, but you can’t take it too far.
Brandão played his role to perfection. He was a bruiser then a diver. That’s life. The ref was at least generally consistent in his no-calls — if the Iniesta penalty wasn’t a penalty (it was), then how could Alves’ challenge on Brandão be a penalty (it was close and to be honest I couldn’t tell). But Iniesta got a card for diving. That’s ludicrous given the number of dives that Brandão had (80?).
Shaktar played a hell of a game. They played it hard and conservative and should feel lucky they only lost 2-1. Henry should have put that first chance away, then Eto’o should have smoked that one he had. And then Ilsinho’s chance should never have been a chance (I fully and completely blame Pique’s crazy backwards header).
2-2 going into the 80th minute would have been an acceptable scoreline for me, though; Valdes made a terrific save against Ilsinho in the first half that I was positive was going into the back of the net. Nice job, Valdes! The second is not his fault whatsoever (no more than Messi’s second was Pyatov’s fault).
Holy hell my blood is still pumping through my veins at a million miles an hour.
I LOVE THIS GAME!!!!!
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for all the talk about building a team not based around Messi, i think this is a stunning example of how we’re just not there. we look toothless for 70 minutes, Leo comes on and suddenly we’re attacking, pushing up, making runs…. and he scores the game-winning 2 goals himself. Eto’o and Henry were utterly gormless, Keita didn’t look threatening at all, when you could find him on the pitch, and Iniesta isn’t going to run through 5 defenders himself. Bojan looked great when he came on, he needs more opportunities to prove himself.
and adding on to a previous point: Puyol’s lack of speed cost us that 1st goal. he came in 2 steps behind Insinho and couldn’t muscle him out of the way.
still, fabulous 3 points for us though i’d rather not have to rely on last-minute goals to get htem.
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Shakhtar played agresively. Always with 2-3 players on the oponent with the ball Barça looked overwhelmed untill Messi came in and Bojan added more spark. Etoo would have never made that cross.
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As I was watching the match, I thought to myself, “Self, opposing teams are going to take note of how successful Shakhtar’s physical play is at disrupting Barca’s style.” Reminded me of Bird’s Celtics v. Magic’s Lakers except Shakhtar didn’t have the skill to close the deal. I was really surprised how bothered we were– esp. Alves, Yaya and Keita. I daresay the rough play took them nearly completely out of the game. I disagree with TH and Samu playing without heart or desire, but even then they were taken out of their element. Like Tomatutomate said, Shakhtar swarmed the ball and TH and Samu were swamped alot. Neither of those two are the slickest when crowded. I think this is why Iniesta who dribbles with the ball glued to his feet was successful and the same goes for Messi and Bojan. The latter two were successful b/c 1) they are really fast and I think the Shakhtar D was tiring and 2) they can dribble with enough skill and pace to run away from the goon squad. Despite the rough play, I was hopeful that our skill would eventually take over… and thankfully it did.
This back four which was so successful a few games back looked a bit disorganized compared to their previous game. But, I wasn’t so bothered by Marquez, Pique or Puyol as I was by the numerous times Alves lost the ball or gave the ball away. I don’t know who to blame re: Shakhtar’s goal but I don’t think Puyol should have left his feet and that Keita probably could’ve marked the guy tighter.
But in the end, it was a hard fought (and well-deserved [not sure what you mean by the other team way, Ramzi]) victory that I enjoyed watching. And while I too had angina while watching the match, the last sublime through ball from Xavi and the exquisite finish by Messi was one hell of an elixir.
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