Pick United’s poison, a.k.a. “What’s the lineup and strategy?”

By: Kevin | May 25th, 2009

Okay. It’s time. It’s Tuesday (well not in Chicago, but in many parts of the world, including Barcelona. Speculation is rife, and Isaiah is going to get us all fired up like crazy folks with a rip-roaring preview that will make us all frothy-mouthed culeniacs.

But for now, let’s use our thinking caps and figure out formation, starting XI and tactics.

Here’s the squad list:

Valdes, Pinto, Puyol, Pique, Sylvinho, Botia, Muniesa, Caceres, The Yaya, Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets, Keita, Henry, Eto’o, Iniesta, Messi, Gudjohnsen, Hleb, Krkic

Tactically, the expectation is that we won’t deviate much from the traditional Barca formation. It works almost all of the time, so why mess with success, right? Right?

And hey, guess what? With me writing this mini-post, I get to be first (yay!). Here’s how I’d like to see things go:

————————————–Valdes————————————————
Puyol——————Pique——————————Caceres—————Sylvinho
————————————The Yaya——————————————-
———————-Xavi———————————–Iniesta——————–
Messi——————————–Henry————————————Krkic

(or if Guardiola insists on starting Eto’o)

Eto’o—————————–Messi————————————–Henry

Why? Because Henry is going to be injured, and he isn’t going to have his usual acceleration and burst, plus I think that seeing him at central striker will put the fear of the Blaugrana God into United. I like Krkic on the wing to start (with a quick yank for Eto’o if he gags it up), because he doesn’t disappear the way that Eto’o does and with his much better touch, he won’t lose the ball, leading to counterattacks.

And yes, I say put Caceres in the back line, mostly because The Yaya is too valuable in midfield. Sylvinho gets left back because he knows how to play the ball and stay at home, which will be all that is needed, as long as we don’t concede set pieces.

This is a fairly traditional setup except for the inclusion of Krkic. Yes, I’m aware of the potential mental complexities in telling Eto’o that he can’t start the biggest match of the year, Clasicos notwithstanding. He’s a big boy and a professional, so he should suck it up.

The option 2 front line makes Messi more difficult to defend by giving him a larger area. Eto’o is going to have to man up and kick some butt on the right wing.

Goal.com had a no-brainer “5 ways that we can win” piece. Short version:

Take advantage of Alves and Abidal’s absences by making the backs stay at home.
Messi has to tear it up, yo.
Beware of counterattacks and Thong Boy.
Finish the chances we get.
Get in that ass on the right side of their defense (hear that, Henry and Iniesta?).

Oh, yeah….and the sun rises in the east. I say attack, attack, attack, capitalizing on the freedom created by a stay-at-home back line.

And that’s what I think. What about y’all?






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  • Corrine |  May 26th, 2009 at 2:52 pm

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    hey i think i can do the liveblog if no one has it covered because my plans didn’t work out for tomorrow

    email me when the time comes

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  • Jason |  May 26th, 2009 at 3:18 pm

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    Isaiah, is it gonna be a special one, including Hudsonian Hyperboles?

    Will it make the most cynical of us shake our heads and say “Hey!, this blithering fool is right! We can do this!” ?

    I expect nothing less from this piece.

    I’ll promise you this though, before i read, i will turn on my iTunes, turn on the put the Champion’s League song on loop and keep it going while i read it, for its dramatic effect.

    Now, stop reading the comments and get to writing!

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  • JeffP |  May 26th, 2009 at 3:32 pm

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    Anyone else watching the CL Final Preview Show on ESPN2 right now?

    Let’s see how much ManU slobbering they do….

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  • Hector |  May 26th, 2009 at 3:44 pm

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    Err…. Lots. Especially Ol’ Onionballs. The Brit press has been hilarious though. If somehow we pull off the miracle, they will have to eat some serious crow.

    I’m still stuck at work after hours (7:40pm EST over here). I may not even watch the game until after 10pm on the DVR. These new projects suck monkey balls (not really, they’re fun but could they come up at a worse time). I may just risk getting fired or pulling an all nighter to escape work and watch the game live but if we win I’ll be too pumped to concentrate and if we lose I’ll be too bummed to concentrate.

    ARRRGHH!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • john |  May 26th, 2009 at 3:55 pm

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    Well Kevin, we agree on the ultimate reason you listed: quieting the din of the EPL love-fest. But even if Barcelona pull it off, there will probably be all kind of excuses made about how the better side lost. Good luck to your lot, though, I’ll be vigilantly cheering them on.

    And I can’t help it – if Eto’o does score, I predict the collective response will be something like “Holy crap! Eto’o didn’t Eto’o it!”

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  • Jnice |  May 26th, 2009 at 3:56 pm

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    I’m watching it JeffP. I don’t think Messi is getting the respect he deserves on that show.

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  • Alexinho |  May 26th, 2009 at 3:58 pm

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    Thank you Isaiah-

    Holy crap it’s tomorrow! I’ve been way too busy to realize it.

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  • Ramzi |  May 26th, 2009 at 4:04 pm

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    @Hector, that was insightful.

    What I am more worried about, is not the game we played against Chelsea. And Its not the fact that Sir Alex watched the game against Real Madrid. The main worry is our game against Valencia. They tried something damaging.

    Their defense lineup was too rigid, never get fooled to be pulled out of position even when there was no Barcelona forward in position to cause threat. When Barcelona move the ball in Valencia Midfield, Marchena and Albiol were cemented in their box (inside), with baraja, Pablo and Albelda?(forgot the third DM they used back then) planted on the edge of the box. It made no room for tricky Barcelona movements to create space, Valencia players were not welling to move out of position no matter what.

    Then when they get the ball, they skip the midfield. no room to build up offense. instead Pablo, Silva and vila raced the wind to our own half catching the long balls played from the edge of their own box. They cant dominate the midfield so they canceled its role. If you watch the game again, Valencia barely played 3 passes from their box to ours, it was a very vertical game.

    Of course our fatigue back then helped them. But in the other hand Against Man Utd you play against more systemic team with better defense, and u have 3 defenders out of service. If Man Utd played the “Flank-run with the ball, cross, dribble center-flank…) game, then no worries. If they Played a Valencia, it will be more complicated.

    On the other side, The Offense set up complications u mentioned are very true. And here, the Alves factor show its importance. In alves we didnt miss a defender (Do we consider him as a defender?) We missed a golden key in our offense puzzle.

    In my opinion, in order to overcome the issues you mentioned we need the following:

    1) More direct game: The Man utd 4-3 set up you mentioned will take place after they do the transition offense-to-defense. If we are convinced that they will attack, then some of the 3 midfielders will play a supportive role in offense. When you win back the ball you need to avoid the typical possession game. even the dribbling. You need to become that Valencia. Couple of passes getting you to the opponent box before Man utd reposition defensively.

    2) eh…Long shots: When the box is crowded by defenders it damage your team attacks because there is no spaces. that’s true unless if you attack by blasting long shots. Pass-Move-Pass-move-pass-shoot! Let Ferdinand and Vidic stay in the box. may be they deflect your shot to the net, or at least make it harder for Vander sar to see whats going on, till he feel the net dancing behind him.

    3) One touch and dribbling on the edge of the box: it sound like a contradiction, but what i want to point out is that both techniques generate free kicks on the box edge. Frustrate that defensive midfield trio. get them booked, irritated, and confused. We aren’t so brilliant when it come to set pieces but still. A yellow card early in the game for any of them, then a Messi/iniesta dribbling around like a bee (you know how annoying it is, right?)

    4) The Soft path: Switching Messi-eto’o positions so that Eto’o act as an attacking midfielder for a moment while messi exchange passes with him while penetrating to the Box thru its left angel, like the corner of this (L) (Visualize). the same set up between Iniesta and henry from the other side.Thats the soft path in the 4-3 defensive structure. The box angles. when you attack thru middle you face two compact lines. If you attack from the flanks u will end up playing crosses (not recommended against that keeper and defense). Well timed diagonal penetration:

    a) Take the full back (Evra)on the week side.
    b)The defensive mid close ur path of course and thats where a pass to the supportive AM you are linking with is important. either he pass back to you behind defensive mid and here u r (Messi) facing the CB (Ferdinand). Or all that mess give the opportunity to the striker on the other side (Henry) to sneak demanding the ball in the box, so while everyone is busy with the Right flank Messi movement, its Henry who gets the ball.

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  • Alexinho |  May 26th, 2009 at 4:04 pm

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    Tim Stannard is saying Pep would be better off losing tomorrow, since the only way to go after that is down. True. But still.

    Valdes,
    Puyol, Yaya, Pique, Sylvinho
    Xavi, Keita, Iniesta
    Messi, Eto’o, Henry.

    Don’t think there’s much debate on that.

    Perhaps some more interesting subs. Caceres on for Keita (or Iniesta or Henry, see how they’re doing) at halftime if things could be going better in the midfield. Perhaps start Henry but not Iniesta, or vice versa. I definitely see Keita getting a start in any case. I would have Henry play from the start if I had to pick between him and Iniesta, since there’s no way he won’t play well in this game, against a team he looooves to hate, against arguably the weakest position. This formula–with Iniesta not starting–could mean confusion for that right side by switching the left-side duo at some point in the game.

    Any confident predictions for the Man U lineup?

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  • RUV |  May 26th, 2009 at 4:12 pm

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    This discussion makes me wonder– is it worse to Eto’o or to Hleb a shot on goal?

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  • Ramzi |  May 26th, 2009 at 4:14 pm

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    And it will not be bad actualy to keep Eto’o in the box while excuting point for, so he glue the CB deeper while Messi link with Xavi. It will ofer more inches between Man Utd two lines for Messi to squeeze himself while penetrating, demanding the pass.

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  • jordi |  May 26th, 2009 at 4:23 pm

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    http://extras.timesonline.co.uk/pdfs/sport/barcelonavmanu.pdf

    pretty interesting info.

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  • jordi |  May 26th, 2009 at 4:34 pm

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    Pique gives some player profiles. Apparently VV plays the piano :)

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1188516/One-foot-camps-Gerard-Pique-reveals-Barcelona-Manchester-United.html

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  • Kxevin |  May 26th, 2009 at 4:36 pm

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    So Hector and Ramzi (and I had forgotten about the absent Hargreaves), could this be the reason for Keita at left back, that extra attacker to work overlaps with Henry and force the kinds of defensive shifts that open space?

    I think that we’ve all been thinking of Keita as that pure defender at left back, rather than a left-sided Alves (defense/offense combo platter, not passing). Suddenly, I think of not only the midfield help possibilities for Busquets(?), Xavi and Iniesta, but also the overlapping runs with Henry, long shots and box-bombing that Keita does.

    Ramzi raises good points about Valencia. After them (as I noted later) more teams tried to bypass our aggressive, hyperactive midfield by going long ball. Mallorca did it, and Osasuna did it, as did Villarreal.

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  • Corrine |  May 26th, 2009 at 4:37 pm

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    nevermind isaiah, i can’t run it anymore :( and i think i’m gonna be missing the final.

    shit :@

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  • BA |  May 26th, 2009 at 4:44 pm

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    i would feel 100% better about this match if i knew Yaya was being played in his usual position. put Caceres in the middle, Puyol on the right and Sylvinho on the left if need be, just don’t remove Yaya from the back of that midfield. his ball-winning and movement-stopping abilities are going to be absolutely vital.

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  • OhYes |  May 26th, 2009 at 4:53 pm

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    I think the reason why Yaya is at CB is because with one pass, you can remove Yaya out of the equation and leave Caceres and Pique completely exposed. But I think the benefits of leaving Yaya in mid outweigh the benefits of putting him at CB. If you put Sylvi at LB and have him stay there 99% of the game, it would make the back much more stable.

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  • Ramzi |  May 26th, 2009 at 4:55 pm

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    @Kxevin, if we ignore Busquets Issues lately as a Defensive midfielder, that suggestion will work.

    The thing I always felt in Keita as an added value is that he is not something specific, but more a Salad. little of this and that. I hope with time, people will start to feel the importance of such kind of utility players over the big names who are great but in something specific.

    In a way, I think busquets as a defensive mid against man utd is not a big gamble. he will not have a clash with tanks (Essien Series) but with players he can match physically.

    So if we will end up playing a 4-4-2, Keita can add something Sylvinho and Caceres cant, as a left back. He is movable per order. Left back/second defensive mid/ Attacking mid with xavi dropping little deeper…Pep can change his role as the game need, and this is a highly unpredictable game, so as Ferguson. So this kind of players can save ur life.

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  • Alex |  May 26th, 2009 at 4:58 pm

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    Hello all I have been out for a few days and was wondering if any of you have links to the footage of the celebrations on Saturday in Camp Nou. thanks in advance!!!

    GO BARCA!!!!!

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  • Ramzi |  May 26th, 2009 at 4:59 pm

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    As a final note before bedtime…
    I strongly recommend Yaya as a defensive mid. as mentioned yesterday. But there is only one question…if he played as a lone DM, can he catch the pace of the counters? I mentioned before the counters tunnel between our offense and defense. I usually prefer 2 DM in such kind of games, but with all our defense problems this is unattainable. unless if either Henry or Iniesta were not able to start.

    Eh…I dont envy pep…

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  • Jnice |  May 26th, 2009 at 5:01 pm

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    Nice article, Jordi. Thanks. Pique is a funny man.

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  • OhYes |  May 26th, 2009 at 5:17 pm

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    Yes Yaya can defend on the counters. He has amazing Pace. I think he’s one of our fastest players.

    He can also read the mid and offense very well. That helps him get a head start in counters.

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  • Isaiah |  May 26th, 2009 at 5:38 pm

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    PREVIEW IS UP! PREVIEW IS UP!

    It is now time to utterly and totally FREAK THE HELL OUT!

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  • wolfnotes |  May 26th, 2009 at 5:47 pm

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    For fun, here’s the result of my FIFA 09 game playing against a friend tonight.

    My starting lineup:

    Valdes
    Puyol/Pique/Caceres/Keita
    Toure
    Xavi/Iniesta
    Messi/Henry/Bojan

    Result after 120 minutes: Barcelona 2-1 Man U

    Goals:
    33′ Henry
    90′ Berbatov
    108′ Xavi

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  • kevo |  May 27th, 2009 at 7:05 am

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    talking about fifa 09. I play manager mode and so far im into my 5th season with Barca.
    The team has shuffle a lil with the core players there.
    Players sold: Eto’o, Xavi (old), Henry (old), Hleb, Guddy, Sylvinho (grandpa), Abilda (old).
    Players bought: Fabregas (for Xavi), Benzema (for Henry), Fernando Torres (for Eto’o), Lahm (for Abidal), Benzema -sold- (for Ribery), a couple of young players.

    My starting XI is kick ass:

    VV
    Alves-Puyol-Milito-Lahm
    Yaya
    Fabregas-Iniesta
    Messi-Torres-Ribery

    A lil tooo much but overall it’s the same with the exception of Lahm for Abidal.

    I’ve always wanted to buy Silva, bidding for the maximum euros possible but i always get the msg of “Valencia doesnt have enough players in their squad.”

    :D

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