Real Mallorca 1, Barca 1, a.k.a. “Peeeeennntoooo!”

By: Kevin | March 4th, 2009

There he is, kids, practicing his mad ninja skills just in case the Jedi mind trick didn’t work, Jose Manuel Pinto, who deserves a nickname of his own. So the contest is open, boys and grills. For today, however, let’s just say that his nickname is Man of the Freakin’ Match.

Kinda long, but it has a nice ring to it, doesn’t it?

I’m going to be brief with the yammering, and let the points do a lot of the talking, mostly because there really wasn’t a lot to say about this match. We knew that Mallorca couldn’t beat us and we played like it, kinda half-assedly sashaying about the pitch, to a degree that mightily vexed His Yayaness, who was acting almost captain-like in getting in people’s faces, demanding better and quicker play.

After some early pressure, we began to rest and Mallorca began to have life. Problem is, they didn’t know what to do with it. Yes, they got a goal, and Keita, Alves and Pique should be clubbed for it. You just don’t allow a lofted pass to get to a player uncontested. Further, you don’t allow the player to control the ball with token pressure, nor do you allow him to pass it to a man who is right there in front of you. And of course, you compound the error by seeing the shooting lane, and not blocking the only option the player had. For all of these things, you three get the Special Prize.

And I don’t have to tell anybody where it’s headed, right?

The lineup was interesting, with Pinto, Alves, Pique, Puyol, Caceres, Yaya, Keita (rumor), Busquets, Iniesta, Hleb and Krkic.

We all had the same thought, right? “Where the midfield runs at, yo?” Iniesta replied “Right here,” as he almost got a goal less than 5 minutes in with a Messi-like run. But his shot wasn’t beating an on-form Lux today. No way, no how.

Then the match degenerated into about what we all expected: a foul-fest, as Mallorca realized that they couldn’t win, so kicking was the option.

For us, this was a crappy match. We had the chance to play ourselves out of the doldrums with a fine performance, and we phoned it in, essentially playing 8 on 11, thanks to the absences of Keita, Busquets and Alves.

Ray-Ray kept blaming the conditions but really, I think that the bad passing, lack of runs and none of the typical overlapping, interlocking play had nothing to do with the conditions. We’re a team that is damaged right now, who faced the exact right team that we needed to face, namely a team that couldn’t beat us. And we tied, moving into the Copa final against a surprising Athletic Bilbao team, who beat Sevilla as they would have beaten us today, like a rented mule.

And with that….

Team: 4. Below average play on a day when it should have excelled with ease. Time after time an attacker charged toward the box, with zero support, or late-arriving support. Say what you will about Eto’o and Henry, but you don’t have to invite them to a party in the box.

Guardola: 7. Made the right substitutions, and came out with the right back line, undone by “Tiger Style” Caceres. His Marquez sub stabilized the back line, in effect showing cognizance that we weren’t going to score a bunch, so we’d better stop them from scoring.

Pinto: 8. I don’t even have to visit the match comments thread to know what everyone is saying. “Start him next Liga match.” Right? Right? His Jedi Mind Trick on the penalty taker resulted in the match-winning moment. T’was a great save, and something that Valdes would nevereverevereverevereverevereverevereverevereverevereverever have done. Never. The player, when he saw that gesture, simply had to hit the ball in that direction. Pretty comprehensive awesomeness. He’s flailing at balls that he needs to take, but that’s something that comes with reps.

Alves: 3. The rest will do him good. He was awful today. He’s becoming Route 1 for attacks, as well. When he isn’t raising hell on the offensive end, his defense becomes a liability, as it was today. Notice that he’s starting to not get calls, because of being the Boy Who Cried Wolf. Expect it to continue until he mans up. Of late, he’s been slow and out of position too much, easily being outdone by quick wingers with good ball skills. Thankfully, La Liga doesn’t have many of those, right? Riiiiight.

Pique: 7. Good match from Lank today, including a great tackle in the box that was all ball. Won every header that came near him, and his ambitious upfield pass off the volley forced the bad clearance that broke Messi loose for the tying (and match-sealing) goal.

Puyol: 6. Our Captain tried, but was having an off match, including getting smoked by Keita (their Keita, who actually showed up) on a spin move. Thankfully, Webo was offside.

Caceres: 5. Was shaping up to be our best defender, doing a pretty good Abidal impersonation with range, pace and combativeness. Man, does he like to get in a player’s face. Then came the unfortunate, studs-up challenge that was a deserved straight red. He was rocking the house until then, and deserves more outings.

Yaya: 7. Strong match in the holding position, with smart positional play. He was often the only man making a run, like the guy on the battlefield saying “rally behind me!” He doesn’t run as much as rumble. He played a fine match as our only real defensive presence in midfield.

Keita: 2. He was there. I know he was there. He started, and I think I saw him running around. I’m pretty sure. Although now that I think about it, maybe I’m not so sure. Hmmm….

Busquets: 2. I know that he was out there, and it wasn’t pretty. He was terrible today, doing everything wrong except for drawing fouls, which he proceeded to sell even harder by writhing about as if his ass was being flossed with red-hot barbed wire. Well looky here, Legacy. You wanted the man-sized contract. Now play like a man. Pass after pass went awry, every time he stuck his boot in the way he does instead of getting into position, the ball went to a Mallorca player. Just awful.

Hleb: 4. I stick up for you, and this is how you repay me? Yes, he had some excellent positional play and a few exceptional passes, including one that sprung Alves on a run that he should have done better with. But overall, he just didn’t have it today. The doubters are picking up steam. I still wouldn’t have minded seeing him in that Xavi position. Perhaps another time.

Iniesta: 6. Started out like gangbusters, then gradually disappeared, right after that hard foul. Did anyone notice that he was rubbing his thigh in almost the exact same spot it was injured two weeks ago? I did, and it sent chills down my spine. He still needs someone to play off of, and he just didn’t have it. He’s a great player, but he can’t control those box runs like Messi can.

Krkic: 1. The Kid was horrible today, always going a dribble too far. Did he even hav a shot on goal? He got the starting chance that everyone was saying that he deserved today, and his movement was off, his passing was off, his runs were off, he was just off. He seems to think he’s Henry, getting the ball on the wing and trying that same drag and dive bomb past the defender. But without Henry’s pace, he just loses the ball. I want to believe….

Substitutes:

Marquez (for Iniesta): 7. Strong positional play that stabilized the back line at a time when things were looking a bit dire. This was a better showing from the Kaiser.

Messi (for Krkic): 8. He brought energy and fire to the side, bringing that right side to life. And what a great goal. A lot of his score is based in intangibles, but you could see the whole side get some bounce in their steps when he came on. He was a bit selfish today, but he was surrounded by crap so it was hard to blame him. If I’m Messi and my two options on the break are Hleb and Yaya, I’m taking it myself.

Xavi (for Hleb): incomplete. Not sure what was said to Hleb as he was coming off, but it seemed to be just what the doctor ordered. A nice little run-out to get the blood flowing, and not much more.

So. It’s on to the Copa final, and we can even scout our opponent this weekend. How ’bout that?






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  • Helge |  March 6th, 2009 at 4:19 am

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    I’m not so sure about Ribéry. He’s playing pretty much the same position as Iniesta does, they are both very offensive LMs. Ribéry seldom played as a true outside forward as many of you suggest him to do if he joins us. Plus they are too similar in their way of playing, they are both brilliant technicians who can dribble the ball like no other in their respective teams. Ribéry does have a better goal-per-game-ratio, that’s the only big difference between them. Though they are still too much two of a kind and I would advise against the deal…

    You don’t need Ribéry if you got Iniesta, you don’t need CR7 if you got Messi BUT we could need David Villa although we got Eto’o.

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  • Isaiah |  March 6th, 2009 at 6:26 am

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    I just released a comment by Liva (spam filter fun!). The text is:

    Helge, if you think Benitez is not a magician, you haven’t seen this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUlTSUSnL4A
    But to be serious – I agree what you said about him. He really knows how to play at Champions league. Somehow it doesn’t work that well in Premier League. The possibility of losing to Liverpool at home most probably never entered Real Madrid’s mind, but…

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  • Helge |  March 6th, 2009 at 6:57 am

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    Wow, I’m deeply impressed by his magic skills ;)

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  • Colin |  March 6th, 2009 at 7:27 am

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    It’s a little unfair to call Benitez defensive when he plays essentially the same 4-2-3-1 as Sir Alex. Maybe his selection is more defensive because he plas Gerrard in the hole rather than a true SS, and he doesn’t play forwards as wingers. Still his system is pretty standard for the PL these days, Martin O’Neill is another who has used it to better his club. If you want to talk defensive football, the conversation still starts in Milan.

    I like Alonso very much because Barca still needs a midfielder who can cannon in a long range shot. We talked about that at the end of last season as a way to break up the bus parking. Alonso will fit in seamlessly with Xavi and allow Xavi to push up for those “dagger” passes. Pep seems to prefer the third midfielder to push forward between the CF and left WF though, not sure he’s interested in Alonso.

    I’ve never seen Tevez play left forward, only SS or 9, so I’m all for him based on what Hector says. He works very hard and is very dangerous at forcing defenders into mistakes, which is a big part of Barca’s pressing style. The all Argie front would wear defenses out.

    Finally, I’m not sold on the Pique – Marquez – Puyol back three because there’s not enough pace there. Pace on counters was a big problem down the stretch last season, I think Caceras is the only player on the team list with the pace to fill in for Abidal. That means living with his inexperience, and probably lots of Puyol – Marquez in the middle.

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  • eklavya |  March 6th, 2009 at 7:42 am

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    LOL here’s the answer to the Pinto vs Valdes stuff:
    http://goal.com/en/news/12/spain/2009/03/06/1141043/barcelona-keeper-pinto-uncomfortable-with-copa-del-rey-spotlight

    :D

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  • Isaiah |  March 6th, 2009 at 8:08 am

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    Colin, the problem with bring in Alonso for his long-range shooting is that we already have 2 long-range shooters with freakin’ Big Berthas. But we don’t use either Keita or The Yaya for that particular purpose because it’s not our style. We’re not goal-crashers like Liverpool (with Torres) or ManU (with Berbatov). We do like to pass the ball into the net more than anything, so I think that our team is asked not to shoot from distance. Seems the only logical reason that we’ve had what 3 or 4 shots all year from more than 30 yards?

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  • Colin |  March 6th, 2009 at 8:25 am

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    Isaiah I think you’re right that it’s a tactical choice not to take many long shots. Maybe Pep doesn’t like the counters that result when a long shot is blocked. Personally I’d like to see the Yaya let rip, and if any defenders want a Looney Toons style hole in their chest let them try to stand in front of the Yaya.

    Danny seems not to have gotten this particular tactical wrinkle from Pep.

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  • Kxevin |  March 6th, 2009 at 8:30 am

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    Interesting news out of Valencia, that fiscal dire straits might force the sale of anybody sellable, as in Villa AND Silva. Craziness. 15 million in unpaid back wages and other madness.

    As for our lads, as I see it the biggest differences between then and now is that now there is no ball pressure on the opponents, and none of the one-touch passing that so unhinged defenses. Both are easy fixes, but require energy. Rest will help. Xavi looked about as sprightly as I have seen him of late in the Copa match.

    The problem with every potential transfer mentioned is that we have somebody who is arguably better. Yes, Tevez coming in means that we can play Henry in position, but that means, thanks to the allegiance to Eto’o, that he’s a 20-million benchwarmer. Or does Guardiola do a 1st half/2nd half thing?

    I love Ribery as a player, but I also wonder what happens to Iniesta and/or Henry if he comes. Ideally, you want all 3 on the pitch at the same time. So Ribery off Xavi, Iniesta on the left wing and Henry at the 9? Then what about Eto’o?

    This summer is going to be interesting.

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  • andrew M |  March 6th, 2009 at 8:32 am

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    Paralelamente a su carrera futbolística José Manuel Pinto, bajo el nombre artístico de Wahin, se ha destacado como productor y compositor de música hip hop. En 2006 fundó su propia compañía discográfica, Wahin Makinaciones.

    that is from wikipedia; and for those of you who dont speak spanish, it is saying how pinto, in his free time, is a producer and composer of hip hop music and has his own record label called Wahin Makinaciones.

    thats pretty fuunny stuff

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  • Kxevin |  March 6th, 2009 at 8:37 am

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    A very funny bit from Tim Stannard over at La Liga Loca:

    Barcelona (1st) vs Athletic (11th)

    Brain-dead Spanish football busy bodies have now got a difficult dilemma on their dilettante hands. And that’s never a good thing, considering their current inability to handle kick-off times, competent referees, TV deals and child-proof bottles.

    The Athletic vs Barça Copa del Rey final, set to be played on the May 13, has thrown up some incredibly inconvenient issues.

    Plan A – arranged before the finalists were known – had the tie taking place in Valencia’s Mestalla stadium.

    But as Athletic plan to bring the entire population of Bilbao to the game, while Barça can count on their solid 27-strong away support, the Basque club has asked for the match to be moved to the Bernabeu which can seat a good 85,000 as opposed to Mestalla’s less than formidable 49,000.

    The other troubling in-tray bulging issue for FA bigwigs – and one which will probably take up most time in pre-match planning – is how to drown out the inevitable boos and jeers from both sets of supporters when the Spanish national anthem is played and the King is wheeled out to meet the players.

    LLL Prediction – Home win

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  • Ramzi |  March 6th, 2009 at 9:28 am

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    @Colin the thing is there was a Benitez fan who was teasing us by underestimating our own coach, so we had to make him pay back, even through adding some spices to the evaluation. The guy asked for it :)

    Benitez is a good tactical Coach, but compared to Man Utd he is defensive coach to death. May be he is practical considering the type of players he have (the best defensive midfielder in the world, and one of the best deep medfielders beside him. No skillfully attacking Midfielder and no skillful forward to partner Torres), yet he had the chance to sign those who can push him forward when he started the project. in brief, he is smart, but defense oriented. When he score once he substitute to lock the game and finish it 1-0, when man Utd score they push for more.

    Hector…you and your Tevez comment…Do you have a copy of my notebook? or you read minds? because some phrases you mentioned are almost exactly the same as I wrote it there on my notes. So I only have to say: Spot on.

    Regarding shooting from distance, I think Yaya is playing too far for being able to take as many shots as we hope him to take. And as a lonely DM in our tactical structure I dont want him to move forward more often (You hear me Yaya? I don’t need your shots). regarding Keita, i think he is still not settled/adapted enough to our playing style and the team in general. He is still finding his way in, so there are some other things he is focused on now to master in his new club/role before he start to take things on his own responsibility, such as picking his shots rather than passing the ball to his team mates , the old guards of the squad.

    Alonso is good, but now that we have Busquets, I think he will only stand in his way. I believe This young boy can do the Alonso job, just need some more time to mature, so Paying the millions to get an older (quality) player is not a priority.

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  • BA |  March 6th, 2009 at 9:56 am

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    why would we want Henry on the field with Iniesta and (Ribery)? i see Henry’s role as a backup for the central striker or left wing should Ribery come to Barca. let me preface by saying again (so i don’t find the HFC in my driveway with torches in the morning) that i love Thierry Henry, and that yes he’s been good for us this season and scored some great goals; but there is still the problem of him slowing our attack and losing possession in forward areas.

    by contrast, Ribery’s athleticism and pace in attack gives us the quickest-playing forward line in Europe. he can make space and find the pass FAR faster than Henry on the left (as well as actually being able to beat his man flat-out), and with Pep liking Messi to drift into the center more that gives us a lot more threat on the break (teams not being able to play 2 men on both Ribery and Messi when they’re getting back, which would be a necessity). plus, the ugly Frenchman can play on the right or in midfield, something the handsome Frenchman cannot. the simple fact is that Ribery excels as a TRUE winger, while Henry for all his majesty at Arsenal was not going to be more than an exceptional converted winger. note that his involvement still leaves Iniesta in the squad, and a left side of Abidal/Iniesta/Ribery sounds pretty damn good to me. and as a final note, remember again that Ribery can also just as easily play in Iniesta OR Messi’s position should they go out injured.

    i see the squad as looking like this:

    Alves/Puyol/Rafa(Henrique)/Abidal
    Yaya
    Xavi/Iniesta
    Messi/Eto’o(Villa)/Ribery

    like everyone i love Xabi Alonso, but he’ll never come and i don’t think he’d accept the kind of rotation that he’d get. David Silva is a decent option, and is a versatile sort of player who i think could fit into a rotation. but i think his arrival is contingent upon whether or not we end up going for Villa; i can’t see us taking both of them at once.

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  • BA |  March 6th, 2009 at 10:40 am

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    oh yeah, and we should have bought this guy: http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/2148176/

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  • tomatutomate |  March 6th, 2009 at 10:47 am

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    @andrew M: there is a funny picture/comic about pinto on peps blog. In essence it says. “I told the guy if he made the penalty i would make him an album. Then he got all nervous”- something like that i cant remember. ill post the link later.

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  • eklavya |  March 6th, 2009 at 11:05 am

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    Feeling a bit depressed? Use this is to pump you a bit :D
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNI6FPdNNGM&feature=related

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  • Kxevin |  March 6th, 2009 at 11:21 am

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    You had me, BA, until you advocated Samuel “Touch of Stone” Eto’o at forward over Eto’o, who dreams of having the first touch and control of Henry. Yes, both are very good forwards, but play Henry at the center, give both an even-steven shot, then we can know.

    And don’t forget that whenever Eto’o migrates to the wing, he vanishes without a trace.

    With Iniesta and Ribery on the pitch, not to mention Alves, there are going to be balls coming at a forward that are going to demand size, strength and a great first touch to convert. Eto’o has one of the three, the second. Villa has one of the three, the last. Does Henry still have all three? Dunno. We’ve seen flashes of all three this season.

    I just can’t believe, given what he’s done and continues to do for the side, that he still doesn’t get the respect he deserves. And it isn’t even as much the HFC as acknowledging that he’s given us 18 goals and countless good plays from a position that isn’t his natural one, and one at which he’s heretofore been a failure. He was part of all three goals at Atletico, scoring two and setting up Messi for the third.

    I know that everyone has players they like and dislike, but I confess to not getting the Henry thing.

    Another up side of Ribery is that we will have someone who can run with Henry, which will keep him from having to stop and wait which, admittedly, holds up the attack. :D

    But Ribery is just another rumor. Bayern are determined to keep him, which means he’s going to be very, very expensive, coming at a price that demands that he start, which means juggling things to get him into the lineup.

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  • peyman |  March 6th, 2009 at 11:28 am

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    com on guys,bayern will not gona sell ribery,and if they will believe me he will end up at chelsea or madrid or manu(if they sell ronaldo),because we will never spend crazy money,and u must be stupid if u think bayern will sell him for just 35 milion,he will leave for atleast 50 milion or more,same goes for benzema ,i realy dont think barca will go any further than 45 milion,and if lyon want to play it hard he will end up in madrid,and i think we will go for benz if we dont renew eto and benz stay at lyon for another year,but it seems barca will not take the risk and renew eto (just as tixi and laporta saying) so no ribery and benz transfer, and i agree with those guys who saying its meaningless to spend that big money for ribery while we have andres to play that traditional winger role,and com on he is just realy good when he plays there ,sometimes even better than messi(and ribery).
    so we must decide for the summer if we want to play iniesta on LW or in midfield,if he gona play LW we must sign a midfield,and otherwise sign a LW in henry style.
    henry wil have bench roll for eto and LW and when eto go for african cup we wil use henry as no.9.
    and if i had to chose i wil go for a henry style LW like tevez,van persie .(benzema!). and my favorit option is tevez who is realy good at pressing,and is hard working.and he wil be available for 35 milion, can play cf if needed.
    no need to say we can sometimes use iniesta in his place ,and sometimes use tevez in messi position.

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  • Ciaran |  March 6th, 2009 at 11:35 am

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    I’m not sure if having Alonso there would stunt Busquets growth (no pun intended to Giant2)
    Having great players to learn from is never a problem. Pep likes rotating his XI and Busquets would get a lot of games. We have always had a very strong Basque influence during our most successful eras and at the minute we have none at the minute, unless Txiki puts on his shorts.
    Basque players have a strong connection with Catalunya historically and many of their best talents find their way to our academy. They have a never say die attitude which is very beneficial to many teams in La Liga and abroad (Alonso, Arteta etc.).

    On the Tevez thing, he has the attributes but would be a very very expensive squad player. He does a job certainly but I can’t imagine him playing the amount of games his massive price tag would require.

    If I could pick the squad for next season, with reasonable budgets and the predicted comings and goings it would look like…

    Valdes & Asenjo (Valdes for La Liga and Asenjo in cups at the start)

    Alves, Caceres, Abidal & Juan Manuel Vargas (Fiorentina) to cover the fullback areas considering that Puyol & Henrique can also fill in
    Puyol, Pique, Marquez, Henrique to rotate as centrebacks with the sale of Milito (he would still command a reasonable fee and he is injury prone)

    Yaya, Busquets and Keita to rotate the defensive responsibilites
    (Xabi Alonso or Miguel Veloso would be more than adequate replacements should a decent offer come in for Keita)
    Xavi, Iniesta and a replacement for Gudjohnsen (Marek Hamsik would be the dream but Javi Martinez of Athletic has a lot of dynamism in midfield)

    Messi, Bojan, Ribery and Gai Assulin should provide plenty of options in the wide positions for next season (even with Iniesta getting games further back if needed)

    Eto’o can decide his own future. If he re-signs then work away. If he holds us to ransom and a decent bid comes then only a Benzema, Villa or Aguero would do to replace him.
    I would love to see Keirrison of Palmeiras in our shirt. He has all the potential to be a true star and is a goal scoring machine.
    Bojan may need to spend more time in slightly wider positions until we have a coach playing 2 up top

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  • Hilal |  March 6th, 2009 at 11:45 am

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    With this whole Ribery thing you are all assuming that we will keep Henry, which i dont think is the case. Look i love the guy, I really do and I have pretty much always defended him, BUT he is getting older and i feel this will be his last truly great season and I think he knows it. Maybe he will stay and be happy with a bench role but he would be too expensive for a sub. If we can replace him the quality of somebody like Ribery or Aguero then i say go for it.

    That being said I still dont think this is the most important position for us to worry about, like a lot of you said, as it stands right now we have sufficient cover for the left. What we need is a backup LB for Abidal, that is without fail IMO. I would love to see Lahm, but he would be v expensive. Maybe the Zhirkov is a more viable option (P.S He can also play as a left winger). We also need a target man in the box, something we missed out on last summer and something i think is crucial to remaining unpredictable and crushing the bus. I would love to see Llorente for several reasons; he is quality, he would not cost the world and he would probably not be too unhappy coming off the bench in some games.

    I think once we deal with those two positions we can look at the left wing. If some sort of deal with Ribery or Aguero looks viable and is not verging on extortion then i would make sense. Henry at the very best has one season left in him, so we should cash in now while we still can.

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  • mku |  March 6th, 2009 at 12:13 pm

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    1- iniesta is a midfielder, one of the best I’ve ever seen. It’s a waste of game vision to put him up front… although he plays well in every position ( I’ve seen him playing left defender once) but he is an INTERIOR (spanish, sorry). His passes are far from Xavi’s, Xavi is really good but to me DON ANDRES is divine. I would put Iniesta as 10, but in Barça there is no 10. As iniesta is a midfielder, ribery in the upper left corner ( I don’t know the position names in english) with him in the back would be really nice.

    2- I haven’t insulted anybody (only Germany’s team because it sucks) so I don’t get the “your age” thing … my age is 52 or 62 I don’t remember.

    3- I’ve seen every game of FCB for decades and I love the team, I am a cule, but I am from Valencia and “real football” refers to teams that play more agressively, like everyone else man!! Some peole call Barça “Farça” (fake) and you should know why.

    4- keita and busquets can perfectly play where yaya does. specially Sergi Busquets who was born for that position. Bred in “la masia” and 1′90 tall. yaya is a fantastic offensive player, if you like wasting talent putting yaya in the back and iniesta attacking you must be crazy, like PEP.

    5- Your coach is my coach too. I just want him to wake up. PEP has not tried shit, he just benefits from Rijkaards’s inertia. It’s the same team without DECO and RONNIE and with ALVES. For instance: we can even play some games with two “9’s” (etoo-henry, some killer 9’s) and messi as “10″, with a whole lot of midfielders in the back. He does not try anything, Barça tactically is pure boredom. Some 2nd halves he puts messi as 9 and Etoo in the side?????? Really stupid, good luck SAMU one day contradicted him and stayed as 9 to score a goal, do you remember? It’s just that there are sooo many tactical variations he could try and actually hasn’t that I’m starting to not trust him. I just wanted to see people’s opinion about those possible tactical variations. I could write for hours about the different variations.

    7- rafa benitez is a tactical god. PEP was just a very good player that scored 3 or 4 goals in his career, couldn’t run faster that 10 km/h, has not ever kicked a ball with the head and was a “4″ and couldn’t defend. He even left FCB when the things were not fine. He just had an incredible game vision. Nodoby is untouchable, only FCB matters. And we are starting to be very predictable with the 4-3-3 fundamentalism. Or more accurately the 4-1-2-3 fundamentalism.

    8- valdes is a jerk

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  • Tomatutomate |  March 6th, 2009 at 12:42 pm

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    MKU: no creo que alguein jamás haga “pateado la pelota con la cabeza”- no te creas. Bienvevido!

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  • Isaiah |  March 6th, 2009 at 12:51 pm

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    Pep scored 6 goals in the league for FCB according to Wikipedia! Woohoo!

    These are certainly interesting points and should be considered by all. I am of the opinion that Pep took what was right about Rijkaard’s system and injected quite a bit of steel and high octane fuel. I am also of the opinion that this is a good thing.

    Another thing of which I am of the opinion (how’s that for an awkward English sentence?) is that Benitez is a good coach. Tactically, he uses what he has to win games without creativity. It doesn’t seem hard to put 10 defenders out there and have them play worse opposition. However, he is good, there’s no doubt about that. Whether or not he’s better than others is not a question I feel I’m qualified to answer, having only seen a handful of Liverpool’s and Valencia’s games under his charge. What I’ve seen of his Liverpool sides, they’ve been boring as hell.

    I have to imagine that Pep is as good, if not better than, Benitez in Benitez’s first year of coaching a full club. Sure, Pep has better players than Real Valladolid, but I think that Pep is doing pretty well since no one has ever earned more points in half a season (though yes, full seasons matter a bit more). So Pep has room to grow. That’s all.

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  • I cant belive I am wasting my time with one more comment here... |  March 6th, 2009 at 12:55 pm

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    @MKU, when I said I am not sure how old are you, it obviously meant “have you watched the games when Valencia won the liga?” if you are 21 years old for example- its not something to be ashame of_ but it means you were not following the games back then. or at least not been aware of tactical things. So there is no insult in what I said.

    As for the rest, its your own opinion.

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  • Ramzi |  March 6th, 2009 at 12:59 pm

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    Sorry for the previous comment Name ID, i was teasing someone on another offside page before, and forgot to change it again to my name.
    “@MKU” that was my comment. Apologies Isaiah for inconvenience. Its ok to delete that one then I repost it in my own name if needed.

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  • mku |  March 9th, 2009 at 6:31 am

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    tomatutomate: “haya” dude… “haya” not haga :-)

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