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		<title>By: Jay Maniyar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Maniyar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 09:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I feel Jose Mourinho is NOT the answer to our woes. He is smart, tactical and a very very good coach, but he simply isn&#039;t &quot;Barcelona-material&quot;. Even if you forget all the ramblings over the past two years, Mourinho&#039;s teams never play beautiful football. Barcelona have a characteristic style of play and needs coaches like Frank Rijkaard or Johann Cruyff to properly implement it. The solution is not Jose Mourinho. 

Also, I can&#039;t imagine him coaching Barcelona. It just shouldn&#039;t happen.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I feel Jose Mourinho is NOT the answer to our woes. He is smart, tactical and a very very good coach, but he simply isn&#8217;t &#8220;Barcelona-material&#8221;. Even if you forget all the ramblings over the past two years, Mourinho&#8217;s teams never play beautiful football. Barcelona have a characteristic style of play and needs coaches like Frank Rijkaard or Johann Cruyff to properly implement it. The solution is not Jose Mourinho. </p>
<p>Also, I can&#8217;t imagine him coaching Barcelona. It just shouldn&#8217;t happen&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Isaiah. I forgot about Oleguer! Ach! And true point about Collins/Jackson, but the reference is more from a locker room viewpoint. Rijkaard should have won everything last year. The spanking by Sevilla in the UEFA Cup was the first sign that the reins were getting loose. Recall the Bulls squabbles and public speakings out (a la Edmilson) that all stopped when Jackson took over. He fused them as a unit. The lads aren&#039;t playing as a unit, even though they&#039;re a team. That&#039;s the coach.

But you&#039;re probably right about Mourinho. He&#039;s simply the best coach out there and Barca is the cushiest spot, which explains the reports. But I do think that Rijkaard would go in a heartbeat if something clunky or embarassing happened. They&#039;re third in the table, but with all the talent he has, they should be top and disappearing into the distance. If he loses to Real at Camp Nou, he&#039;s gone.

My reason for giving Krkic a 10 was the effect he had on the team. They would have settled for the 0-0 draw had he not shown the way he did. Technically, you&#039;re right. He probably gets a 7, all else being equal. But his presence snatched victory from the jaws of a draw.

And thanks for the chance to contribute, and thanks everyone for showing passion without the nonsense that pollutes comments on other spaces. It&#039;s a pleasure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Isaiah. I forgot about Oleguer! Ach! And true point about Collins/Jackson, but the reference is more from a locker room viewpoint. Rijkaard should have won everything last year. The spanking by Sevilla in the UEFA Cup was the first sign that the reins were getting loose. Recall the Bulls squabbles and public speakings out (a la Edmilson) that all stopped when Jackson took over. He fused them as a unit. The lads aren&#8217;t playing as a unit, even though they&#8217;re a team. That&#8217;s the coach.</p>
<p>But you&#8217;re probably right about Mourinho. He&#8217;s simply the best coach out there and Barca is the cushiest spot, which explains the reports. But I do think that Rijkaard would go in a heartbeat if something clunky or embarassing happened. They&#8217;re third in the table, but with all the talent he has, they should be top and disappearing into the distance. If he loses to Real at Camp Nou, he&#8217;s gone.</p>
<p>My reason for giving Krkic a 10 was the effect he had on the team. They would have settled for the 0-0 draw had he not shown the way he did. Technically, you&#8217;re right. He probably gets a 7, all else being equal. But his presence snatched victory from the jaws of a draw.</p>
<p>And thanks for the chance to contribute, and thanks everyone for showing passion without the nonsense that pollutes comments on other spaces. It&#8217;s a pleasure.</p>
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		<title>By: Ciaran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ciaran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 00:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i dont like the spam filter here. it drives me nuts</description>
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		<title>By: Ciaran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ciaran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 00:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If i could get past the spam filter i&#039;d agree that Rijkaard should see out the season. Maybe next summer there will be some changes.
Valdes Zambrotta Puyol Milito Abidal and Yaya is an awesome back 6. Pace and movement up front is all we need. I would like to see them shooting more. Valencia had 60% possession against Racing but had one quarter of the shots that Racing had, and lost</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If i could get past the spam filter i&#8217;d agree that Rijkaard should see out the season. Maybe next summer there will be some changes.<br />
Valdes Zambrotta Puyol Milito Abidal and Yaya is an awesome back 6. Pace and movement up front is all we need. I would like to see them shooting more. Valencia had 60% possession against Racing but had one quarter of the shots that Racing had, and lost</p>
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		<title>By: Isaiah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isaiah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few points I&#039;d like to make:

1. I think this Mourinho talk is rubbish. Not simply because it&#039;s being bandied about in the rag daily press, but also because of the fact that I don&#039;t think Rijkaard is going anywhere. Sure, these are &quot;down&quot; moments for Barca, but for chrissake we&#039;re 3rd in the league, 2 points off of first and, barring utter insanity, we&#039;ve qualified for the knockout phase of the Champions League after the fourth game. What more can you really ask for in the world&#039;s most competitive/best league? Should Schuster go because they&#039;re not outright winning the title? Or Koeman because they lost a match? No. So the same thought should be applied to Rijkaard. The Collins/Jackson comparison doesn&#039;t make a bit of sense, Kevin, because Rijkaard won 2 league titles and a Champions League in his time. Sure, there are times to get rid of coaches, but just because you&#039;ve lost a couple of games doesn&#039;t mean you should be sacked. That&#039;s silly. And I don&#039;t want Mourinho anyway. He&#039;s a dickface. And yeah, I just used that term.

2. I didn&#039;t think Barca&#039;s performance was all that bad, to be honest. Gudjohnsen (overrated, by the way, in your assessment: 1 at best! What do you have to do to be a 1 as a forward? Nothing aka what Gudjohnsen did) was a tactical mistake, but what else are you going to do with so many players out? I like keeping Bojan as a sub for now simply because of the experience factor. His performance, by the way, was far from a 10. Sure, he energized the team a bit up front, but so would&#039;ve putting on, say, Bill Buckner. Bojan was good and it was awesome to see him out there, but a perfect 10? No way. An 8 at most. He missed some chances, made some mental errors, the norm for a 17 year old kid subbing on. Toure&#039;s game I&#039;ll agree was a 10. That&#039;s fine. He was fantastic. My man-crush is in full effect.

The defense as a whole deserved a 7 or 8. Probably an 8. They allowed Sinama-Pongolle to get into the box several times and that could have cost them had his touches been better. He had a terrible game, after all. But for the most part, the D was awesome and a pleasure to watch. When Bojan came on (admittedly 15 minutes late), the team responded to another attacking force, creating a lot more chances. Messi was a big problem with his lack of passing, having created a ton of chances and spurning them for personal glory. That&#039;s odd, I think, seeing as I generally see him as a very team-oriented player. Perhaps this just his ego peeking out and testing the waters. Bout time, though...

3. I agreed 100% with Ray Hudson and Phil Schoen (GolTV announcers) about the ref. He was trash. I mean, serious trash. At first he was pretty even-handed with his trash and then when Recre realized they could just hack at will, he became very partial to them. I was surprised, really, at the announcers really berating him, but I agreed. The linesmen took some heavy knocks they probably didn&#039;t deserve (though Henry was well and truly onside before he passed to Iniesta), but the ref was pure trash. I wasn&#039;t too worried about it except that he gave out some strange yellows, including that foul by Milito which I saw as a clean tackle. He obviously mistook Toure for Abidal, but Abidal needed to be cautioned to simmer things down just a bit.

4. Have to mention that Oleguer made an appearance. I don&#039;t think that Zambrotta is truly fit, despite the club claiming he is. Oleguer gets a 6, I think, for merely existing and not being noticed. Nothing got passed him, really, but nothing was going his way. I&#039;d take that any day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few points I&#8217;d like to make:</p>
<p>1. I think this Mourinho talk is rubbish. Not simply because it&#8217;s being bandied about in the rag daily press, but also because of the fact that I don&#8217;t think Rijkaard is going anywhere. Sure, these are &#8220;down&#8221; moments for Barca, but for chrissake we&#8217;re 3rd in the league, 2 points off of first and, barring utter insanity, we&#8217;ve qualified for the knockout phase of the Champions League after the fourth game. What more can you really ask for in the world&#8217;s most competitive/best league? Should Schuster go because they&#8217;re not outright winning the title? Or Koeman because they lost a match? No. So the same thought should be applied to Rijkaard. The Collins/Jackson comparison doesn&#8217;t make a bit of sense, Kevin, because Rijkaard won 2 league titles and a Champions League in his time. Sure, there are times to get rid of coaches, but just because you&#8217;ve lost a couple of games doesn&#8217;t mean you should be sacked. That&#8217;s silly. And I don&#8217;t want Mourinho anyway. He&#8217;s a dickface. And yeah, I just used that term.</p>
<p>2. I didn&#8217;t think Barca&#8217;s performance was all that bad, to be honest. Gudjohnsen (overrated, by the way, in your assessment: 1 at best! What do you have to do to be a 1 as a forward? Nothing aka what Gudjohnsen did) was a tactical mistake, but what else are you going to do with so many players out? I like keeping Bojan as a sub for now simply because of the experience factor. His performance, by the way, was far from a 10. Sure, he energized the team a bit up front, but so would&#8217;ve putting on, say, Bill Buckner. Bojan was good and it was awesome to see him out there, but a perfect 10? No way. An 8 at most. He missed some chances, made some mental errors, the norm for a 17 year old kid subbing on. Toure&#8217;s game I&#8217;ll agree was a 10. That&#8217;s fine. He was fantastic. My man-crush is in full effect.</p>
<p>The defense as a whole deserved a 7 or 8. Probably an 8. They allowed Sinama-Pongolle to get into the box several times and that could have cost them had his touches been better. He had a terrible game, after all. But for the most part, the D was awesome and a pleasure to watch. When Bojan came on (admittedly 15 minutes late), the team responded to another attacking force, creating a lot more chances. Messi was a big problem with his lack of passing, having created a ton of chances and spurning them for personal glory. That&#8217;s odd, I think, seeing as I generally see him as a very team-oriented player. Perhaps this just his ego peeking out and testing the waters. Bout time, though&#8230;</p>
<p>3. I agreed 100% with Ray Hudson and Phil Schoen (GolTV announcers) about the ref. He was trash. I mean, serious trash. At first he was pretty even-handed with his trash and then when Recre realized they could just hack at will, he became very partial to them. I was surprised, really, at the announcers really berating him, but I agreed. The linesmen took some heavy knocks they probably didn&#8217;t deserve (though Henry was well and truly onside before he passed to Iniesta), but the ref was pure trash. I wasn&#8217;t too worried about it except that he gave out some strange yellows, including that foul by Milito which I saw as a clean tackle. He obviously mistook Toure for Abidal, but Abidal needed to be cautioned to simmer things down just a bit.</p>
<p>4. Have to mention that Oleguer made an appearance. I don&#8217;t think that Zambrotta is truly fit, despite the club claiming he is. Oleguer gets a 6, I think, for merely existing and not being noticed. Nothing got passed him, really, but nothing was going his way. I&#8217;d take that any day.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankly I&#039;d be surprised if Mourinho went to Barcelona.  I could see him going to another G-14 team, but I&#039;m not holding my breath waiting for him to come to Barca.  

I agree with Kevin when he said that Rijkaard has lost control of the dressing room...sad but I think it&#039;s true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly I&#8217;d be surprised if Mourinho went to Barcelona.  I could see him going to another G-14 team, but I&#8217;m not holding my breath waiting for him to come to Barca.  </p>
<p>I agree with Kevin when he said that Rijkaard has lost control of the dressing room&#8230;sad but I think it&#8217;s true.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not completely convinced about Mourinho, but I know he&#039;s better than Rijkaard, who has lost control of the dressing room. Mourinho had Chelsea playing the way they were because of the talent he had. They weren&#039;t really built to play the aggressive, slashing style that we love from our lads.

I don&#039;t think that wholesale changes in the roster are necessary. But if Mourniho comes, I sure wouldn&#039;t mind seeing Drogba and/or Essien come along (with the latter and Toure, we wouldn&#039;t even NEED a back line). 

For Chicago Bulls fans, Rijkaard/Mourinho is like Doug Collins/Phil Jackson. Collins set the table, but couldn&#039;t really handle the talent the team had. Jackson could, instilled discipline and was able to finish it off. Six NBA titles later....

Of course, we all know the credence that press reports deserve, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not completely convinced about Mourinho, but I know he&#8217;s better than Rijkaard, who has lost control of the dressing room. Mourinho had Chelsea playing the way they were because of the talent he had. They weren&#8217;t really built to play the aggressive, slashing style that we love from our lads.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that wholesale changes in the roster are necessary. But if Mourniho comes, I sure wouldn&#8217;t mind seeing Drogba and/or Essien come along (with the latter and Toure, we wouldn&#8217;t even NEED a back line). </p>
<p>For Chicago Bulls fans, Rijkaard/Mourinho is like Doug Collins/Phil Jackson. Collins set the table, but couldn&#8217;t really handle the talent the team had. Jackson could, instilled discipline and was able to finish it off. Six NBA titles later&#8230;.</p>
<p>Of course, we all know the credence that press reports deserve, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Zes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 12:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No way should Mourinho be allowed anywhere near the Barca dressing room. He&#039;d destroy the club</description>
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		<title>By: jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 09:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that is my point. we dont want their players. mourinho&#039;s style with chelsea was different to when he was with porto, so obviously he can adapt to our game, but will want to bring his players that he is close to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that is my point. we dont want their players. mourinho&#8217;s style with chelsea was different to when he was with porto, so obviously he can adapt to our game, but will want to bring his players that he is close to.</p>
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		<title>By: Yclif</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yclif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 07:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>do you really want to play like Chelsea. stupid.</description>
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