Comments on: Numancia 1, Barca 0, a.k.a. “I think, therefore I am….NOT!”

By: Ciaran

Ciaran — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:44:33 +0000

The discussions here are much more friendly than most places. Everyone has a different opinion on football. Different experiences, different views on players, tactics and will have their own personal preferences for players and coaches. Thats why there are so many forums and media with millions of different points.
I wouldn’t trade my 15yrs of watching Barca religiously for Genis’ 35. Not that I don’t appreciate it and respect it immensely, but I love Barca from what I have watched and lived with them.
Visca el Barca

By: Genis

Genis — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 17:42:02 +0000

Well, RtUpperV: If you wish, I’ll trade my years as a soci for your age. Any time

By: Ramzi Tanani

Ramzi Tanani — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 14:53:44 +0000

and as I said there about messi haircut, I just hope he dont turn to become the “stylish player”, thats the coffin for talents.

By: RtUpperV

RtUpperV — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 14:28:38 +0000

Just to clarify, I’ve never felt like you were rubbing in the 35yrs, Genis. Pls believe me when I say that I very much appreciate your perspective as a long-standing soci b/c it helps me develop my own perspective about the team and the Barca experience as a whole. I really wish I had yrs of Barca imbedded into my soul and my arse (via season tickets) too…

By: eklavya

eklavya — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 14:27:04 +0000

Messi’s cut his hair now, i preffered them long but i guess it annoyes him a lot, here are some pics:
http://fcbtransfers.blogspot.com/2008/09/messis-new-hair-cut.html

By: Genis

Genis — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 13:56:31 +0000

RtUpperV, as much as I enjoy needling Kevin saying that he rubs our noses in Titi’s stats, I’m well aware that I too tend to rub yours in my 35 years as a soci and blah, blah, blah… But, apart from showing it off a little, I do it to put my comments into their proper context, that of a seasoned soci that has seen a lot of things, a perspective that, as far as I know, is rather unique here. I think that some of you will appreciate that.

On the other hand, let me tell you that I appreciate a lot, end even envy, your fresh, uncontaminated perspective on all things Barça. You know, that’s something I’ll never be able to feel again…

So, I think that all our perspectives have their value and complement each other. That, and above all, the fine people posting here about our Barça, is what attracts me to this site.

By: RtUpperV

RtUpperV — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 13:07:44 +0000

Good points Genis et al. I think where my thinking differs is that I never saw Henry as a Ferrari or anything remotely similar when he was brought over to join the fleet of Barca stars. Zidane, Bergkamp, etc. can talk til they’re blue in the face, but the truth (in my mind) was that he was coming off a bunch of injuries and losing a step or two. Moreover, I thought (and still think) he was/is overpaid and brought over for the wrong (or not well-thought out) reasons– when the transfer happened, I remember asking a friend, where the hell are they going to play him anyway w/ Eto’o already there?… but I blame management for these issues more than anybody else. Never in my mind did I expect him to be in the same stratosphere as Cruyff, Ronnie, Laudrup, etc for the above reasons. Besides, you have to earn legend status with a body of work of more than 1 yr. Frankly, I don’t think he has enough left in his legs to become legend here. I do think that he has enough skill to make a sizable contribution to a team had clearly been built around Ronnie, Eto’o and Messi. He was never going to be the top gun in my mind. I think he did an okay job for his first year in a new league and playing out of position… at least more than “virtually nothing.” I’m not sure what your definition of important or decisive is, but for instance in the Copa last year, he scored 4 goals by my tally: all important– opener of a 3-0 w over Alcoya, the opening goal in a 1-1 draw with Sevilla, lone goal in 1-0 w over Villareal, and a goal to bring Barca up to 2-1 down v. Valencia (ultimately a 3-2 loss). As I have to go to work, I don’t have time to go through the CL or La Liga campaigns.

Now, if the issue is that he isn’t busting his ass on the field, then fine. I have no problem with that. I wholeheartedly agree that pulling on the Barca jersey should come with 110% effort on the field. And you all get to watch these guys much more often and closely than I get to (and lucky you), so I defer to you.

A humble opinion from this non-soci in the US w/o 35yrs of the joys and despairs of sitting in the stands of Camp Nou.

By: Me-Ramzi

Me-Ramzi — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:35:12 +0000

I was so sure they will be comming for messi, now what will make messi stay is only HIS DESIRE to stay, nothing else to count on. Lets see how long he can resist the tempt of gold.

By: JC

JC — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:03:32 +0000

no sign of Kxevin for a while!!!!!

By: ursus arctos

ursus arctos — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 10:19:55 +0000

Another quality post by Genis. I find the Prosinecki comparison to be particularly apt.

And as to the reason for my “virtually nothing” conclusion, I offer you the stats he so helpfully posted earlier:

“Who would rub our noses again and again in Titi’s 17 goals and 20 assists? To whom could then we answer that those goals were, in fact, 19, and that, anyway, only FOUR of them could be deemed important or decisive (well…), ONE in la Liga, ONE in the CL, and TWO in la Copa?”