

Review: Barcelona 4 – 0 Valencia, “Teams win Championships”
By: Isaiah | December 7th, 2008
Holy howitzers, boys and girls. This was the right game for Kevin to go see live. It had four goals and a chant of “Henry! Henry!” rolling through the crowd. Maybe everyone just followed who they thought was Thuram in the chant. Regardless, you were left with the distinct impression — especially if you listened to Ray Hudson — that Henry was well and truly Man of the Match thanks to his hat trick. I will not be so effervescent, so over-the-moon as our boy RayRay. I’m sure Kevin will kick my ass when he comes back, but it’s well worth it.
I watched this match in two halves — like everyone else, of course, but my first half took place live and my second half was watched at 11pm. My parents took my lady and me out to the New York City Ballet to see The Nutcracker. I’d never been to the ballet before; if you’re a ballet fan and you haven’t been to Lincoln Center, I would highly recommend it. If you’re not a ballet fan, we can have a beer while our respective better halves enjoy the show.
So the first half was brilliant. Brighter than the dark side of the flashlight, as Hudson might put it. Absolutely scintillating stuff from our boys, dominate in every part of the field from start to finish. There was ample space to play in their end, while our end was tighter than a steel drum in winter. There was no space for them to move in midfield, no way that Villa was going to beat 3 defenders, plus a box-to-box Yaya.
Our midfield was incredible. I mean, absolutely amazing. I’ve always found it hard to rate midfielders defensively because it’s the little things that matter the most: pressure, forcing opponents to make bad passes. Yaya is easier to rate defensively because he is obviously Fee-Fie-Foe-Fum-ing and making bread out of bones. Xavi and Gudjohnsen are not so easy to rate defensively, but if you take the amount of time the other team had on the ball in the middle third, you’ll realize that they were doing something very well.
The game headed in our direction starting when defensive pressure freed Xavi into the middle, one-on-one and he dinked it off the post. Ray Hudson called him Hleb like 5 times before the replay suggested he was wrong. Not the last time Huddy would be wrong, of course, just a good indication of where his brain was (here’s a hint, look in his cups). I still can’t believe that Xavi missed that chance.
Our first goal was exquisite. Yaya places a ball daintily, with love, on a silver platter and Henry deftly flicks it home. Renan nearly makes a great save, but the ball winds up in the back of the net anyway. Absolutely dazzling pass from Yaya, wonderful touch from Henry, and we were off and running. This was the first instance of the immense amount of space Valencia was giving up in the back thanks to their midfield’s lack of cohesion. Watch the goal here. Note that the ball starts with Valdes, who gives a very short outlet to Marquez, who turns and passes it vertically to Yaya. No one is within 3,000 yards of Yaya, so he just turns and starts to lumber forward. Because Valencia was obviously terrified of our offensive capabilities, their midfielders immediately began to backpedal, leaving Yaya with acres of space and leaving Henry, Messi, and Hleb open up front. Messi, being in the middle, just stands there, and the two central defenders stand there with him. And by the time they realize that Henry is cutting in from the wing, it’s too late because the ball is on its way.
The second goal, 8 minutes later, developed again from our half and rapidly moved forward. Alves slips the ball to Xavi, who slips the ball back. Alves’ pace moves him from midfield to attacking third before Valencia’s midfield recognizes the danger. Their back line actually does a good job, but their midfield is very slow to get back. Check out the goal here [link fixed, thanks ajani]. A great pass from Alves to Hleb on the left wing shifts the point of attack away from the concentrated defenders. Hleb then slides an easy pass to Henry who one-times it in. Beautifully taken goal, great spacing. However, I believe this goal should be blamed on Fernandes, but I’m not sure if I’m right. He’s the right side midfielder who doesn’t make the run to cover Henry. He just watched a bit and then realizes that that’s his man cutting in from the wing for the wide-open shot. If that’s not Fernandes, then whoever it really is is the one responsible for the goal.
The third goal, coming right after halftime, was a little bizarre. Watch it here. Hleb is obviously offside, but the Valencia player also obviously deflects it to Hleb. I actually saw that live and was appalled at Hudson and Schoen’s inability to consider that maybe, just maybe, it had deflected and that’s why the ref called for play on. Now, I don’t really think that it’s right to let play go on like that, but I think technically that’s the right ruling. Yaya intention was not to pass it to Hleb and that the defender sent the ball towards Hleb shouldn’t cause Barcelona to be penalized. The goal, though, was exquisite. Alves makes a darting run forward, Xavi sees him, and slips the ball behind the defense, who had stranded itself by stopping and staring at the ref. Oops.
Here’s where the great error by Hudson and Shoen happens. They call for the ref’s heads, claiming the worst call in history. Then, about 20 minutes later when the replay clearly showing a deflection is shown, they talk about how great the ref’s call was. No, that’s bad form. Apologize for calling for his head and all is forgiven. Instead, you act like you knew it all along cause you’re a couple of jackasses. Well done, boys.
The fourth goal was another brilliant pass, this time from Bojan. Watch the whole thing here. Xavi gives the ball to Alves on the wing with some space, Bojan makes a tight little run, Alves slips him in, Bojan has a neat touch to get past his defender and then with a little look, he freezes the last defender and the pass to Henry is the simplest goal you can score. So great to see the kid getting a hand in a goal, especially after the crap he’s been getting for his performance against Getafe. No one covered Henry’s run, once Bojan was beyond them. Terrible defending, great attacking.
So there you have it, a complete rout. Now for the ratings. Here’s how I judged each player: I took the number of minutes they played, divided by the number of passes they complete, plus the shots on goal, multiplied by percentage of yellow cards earned, adding fouls earned, multiply by 11. No, I’m joking. I started at 5 and worked my way up or down depending on if I thought they were positively contributing or not.
Valdes: 6. He didn’t have to do anything. He just stood there most of the time and collected bad balls over the top and back passes. He made the only defensive move he was called on to make by shutting down Villa and forcing him over the endline.
Alves: 10. Best game he’s had in the shirt, combining so smartly with Messi a couple of times and opening up the defense several times. He could have scored on the freekick that he whistled over the bar and he did score by being alert and slotting home. He could do with less play-acting, though. (And the ref could send off Villa for a second bookable offense)
Marquez: 8. Great game from the Kaiser, who controlled Villa very well.
Puyol: 8. Just like Marquez, Puyol was a rock. Marquez was a little better, I thought, but Puyol was more adventurous going forward.
Abidal: 8. Great game from the winger, shutting down Joaquin completely. I’m so glad to have him back on the wing. It just adds so much depth to our game.
Yaya: 8. Man-sized score for a man-sized player. Only a few mistakes, including one giveaway from doing too much fancy footwork, but also like 80,000billion tackles in midfield. Awesome. Valencia’s YFR: 99%, but only because it’s been 12 hours since they saw him. You have been officially Yaya-ed.
Xavi: 7. Good stuff from the little man in the middle. Good distribution, good harassment, would have an 8, but I do expect him to score those one-on-ones. That’s just the kind of guy I am.
Gudjohnsen: 6. I know that I’m probably being biased here, but Guddy just didn’t seem to do that much. He still looks lost to me and holds the ball for far too long, then back-passes it. But I can’t argue with his defensive moves. Also, I’m confused a bit about what role he’s supposed to be playing. Is he the new Iniesta? If so, he gets a -30. Is he Yaya Jr? Is he Xavi Jr? What the hell are you!? You’re an Icelandic Monument, that’s what you are. And I’m beginning to like you. Whoa.
Hleb: 6. Some good movement, some good passes, and some bad of both, too. I’m still really looking forward to Iniesta’s return so that “Alexander the Great” (Hudson-ism) can ride a bit of pine. He’ll grow into the squad, but because I was never a fan of his signature in the first place, I’ll gladly take the heat for being too harsh on him.
Messi: 2. Yup, you read it right, folks. I know that there’s going to be some backlash for this, but whatever, he didn’t do anything. I watched him specifically for quite a bit of the match and he didn’t make runs, he didn’t attempt to go to the ball (leaving a few of his teammates stranded because of it), and he didn’t fill space (leaving Henry all alone against multiple defenders several times). You could argue that he was distracting the defenders, but that’s not what we pay Messi for and it’s not what we expect out of him. If we ignore expectations, Henry just had another game, rather than a brilliant performance. What’s fair for Henry is fair for Messi. What now, Kevin!?
Henry: 10. His best game in blaugrana coincides with Kevin’s visit. Imagine that. He created space, filled space, took his chances, created more for others, and worked his ass off. When Messi (and Guddy) left him stranded, he used fancy footwork to get out of it and get the ball back to Abidal or Xavi rather than turning the ball over (Messi). Kudos, Monsieur Henry, vous etez le….fromage. Wait, I don’t speak French. Henry rocked the house. Finally. Now he just has to keep it up.
Subs:
Bojan: 8. Perhaps slightly inflated for a guy who played only 15 minutes, but damn did he do a lot. He should have had 2 assists, but the second one wasn’t to be because no one made the right run to meet the ball.
Pedro: 5. This is probably a very unfair rating. Perhaps “incomplete” would have been better, but that’s not how I roll. He was stuck into a Xavi-esque roll and that’s not his style. Bad substitution (on for Messi)…it should have been Busquets.
Keita: 6. Basically forced Pedro into a midfield roll by playing center forward. Cool, but didn’t do much other than help keep the pressure in Valencia’s end. If he’d connected with that header and scored, it would have just been icing.
Guardiola: 7. Pedro didn’t need to go on. Sorry. You get a -1 for that.
Man of the Match: The Team. Team effort = team win. Hell yeah.
Shaktar next, then it’s Real Madrid. Holy balls. Let’s do this!
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Here’s backup for Isaiah, It was not anywhere near Messi’s match. It was owned by Dani, Yaya and Henry.
Messi is not a centre forward and was played as one. Now I know he should be capable of playing there but he is best when he is facing the opposition goal, with the ball at his feet.
With Eto’o in the centre Messi can go where he likes and receive the ball with only one player marking him. The problem with the Hleb/Messi/Henry frontline is that Hleb does not demand any attention off the ball because he is zero goal threat.
I still give Messi a ‘6′ because he didn’t do much wrong, and without him we are far less dangerous. Sky Sports reported that on average we take 24 shots per game with Messi in our team, 14 without.Real are now 9 points off us going into the Classico. Schuster said after the Sevilla match that it is ‘impossible’ to beat us in this form. I like it.
If we win next Saturday then we go 12 points clear of them in first place, and depending on other results, EE go 7th.
The week after, we play Villarreal and they play Valencia. Villarreal are haemorrhaging goals at an incredible rate and Valencia are always dangerous.I am a very confident boy this season.
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If I watched a match in which a player attempted few passes, beat only one or two defenders in 80 minutes, and every time I glanced in his direction (because I wondered where he was) and found him to be standing and watching, yes, I would give that player a 2 regardless of whether or not he’s Pirlo, Totti, or Maradona. Doesn’t matter to me who you are, merely what you do on the field.
The only exceptions to this are goalkeepers, for obvious reasons.
I figured the 2 would get under a lot of people’s skin, but that’s all right. I called it like I saw it and I have no problem with people disagreeing. I hope Messi reads this site and calls me at home to 1) bitch me out, tio and 2) promise me that against RM he’s going to earn an 11.
A preview of Shaktar should be coming tomorrow. And then a review late Tuesday or midday Wednesday. The game will be shown live on ESPN Deportes at 2:30pmEST. Other than that, I’m not sure it’s on except maybe at like 3am on Thursday or some crap.
The grab bag of B teamers should make for a fun evening for Kevin, who gets to see our future, especially Caceres, for 90 minutes.
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Gotta love Schuster’s mind games (hes saying that the RM has no chance at the Camp Nou) but I think Pep’s not falling for that one. They’re defense is a sieve, Casillas’ confidence is non-existent, and as if all they’re injuries aren’t enough, they now lost their only player capable of consistently braking down a defense one on one (”desbordando”), Robben. However, they’ve always proved to be a tough out. Look at this game. Sevilla was killing them, they took their foot of the pedal and RM came right back. We cannot slack off. No mercy.
Oh yeah, agree with most of the ratings except for Messi’s. He was almost non-existent as a 9 but once back on the right flank he was decent. But a 2? We get it, you are not over awed by the Messiah and are not afraid to mark him down when he doesn’t perform. Point taken. However, I would think a 2 would be reserved for a center back who gives up an easy goal and then scores an auto goal or something like that. He was prob around a 5 + or – 1. He came close to scoring and had those “oh so smart combinations” with Alves that you mention in Alves’ capsules.
But hey, better get Messi’s mediocre performance outta the way now instead of during the clasico. More motivation for him to perform next week.
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look how schuster talks about his team:
he claims EE have no chance against us. he then says he wont resign because he has the whole support of the team. it seems he though, doesnt support the team.
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haha sorry HE above, i guess we posted simultaneously
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it seems like we need to establish a MFC Messi fairness committee over here
, definitely he wasn’t in his form, and if you watched him leaving the pitch he wasn’t pleased with what he have done. 2 or 6 doesn’t matter a lot as I think this is largely subjunctive. if you compare him to Gudi you may give him 6, if you compare him to himself against Sevilla you may give him 2 but i think we all agree that wasn’t our boy!
concerning EE game well, they lost and thats definitely for our best, but I do think that the ref. wasn’t right on many occasions, it’s a shame Robin wont play against us, as this give them one more excuse, they also showed some bursts of fighting spirit that I think will be their only weapon against us, but Sevilla deserved the win they showed a fighters determinations and without their serial killer, Fabiano.
shuster said after the match that his side has no chance to win at camp nou, in a rather naive attempt to sedate our men.. but anyways I think they’ll come to us with less pressure now .
enjoy the leadership of la liga guys
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Dang. Guess I missed a few letters of my name a few posts up. I saw the Sevilla/Madrid game and I do think its a good match up for us/
They are so thin at centerback right now with Pepe (currently their best defender IMO)and Heinze out. That means Sergio gets moved to Centerback (its either him or Metzelder who has been absolutely atrocious since the Euro Cup). Marcelo just got suspended for the clasico, which, in turn means that Real Madrid will have the world class fullback tandem of Torres (or Drenthe maybe but he sucks at defense) and Salgado the Dinosaur. That’s a recipe for sweet chaos if you ask me. You do NOT want (if you’re a RM fan) Salgado or Torres getting one on one against one of our attackers.
Real Madrid are dangerous enough in the opposing area. I really do like Higuain as a player and Raul still has enough killer left in him to steal a few goals at the most vital times. They also have dangerous guys in the air, and Van der Vaart and Sneijder (who might not even play) are good free kick takers. Defensively, I think the key is to take Guti and Gago out of the game (which is perfectly doable). Sneijder and Vand der Vaart tend to get frustrated and lackadaisical when they don’t have possession. That’s Gago and Guti’s job. Get possession, keep it, and move it forward. We frustrate THEM and the Dutchmen in turn become frustrated, leaving Raul and Higuain (or usually Robben) to play Lone Ranger against our backline.
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i dont really see why we are complaining over messi getting a low score though. He was given a thunderous applause when stepping off the pitch by the camp nou crowd.
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Thought I’d mention area minors things I saw in the game.
1: 4th minute a the second half ( Fernades v. Marquez )
Fernandez who was the only decent player yesterday from the bats. Gets torn apart by Marquez with a beutiful slide tackle ( caceres style ) fernades looks up dumbfounded and the márquez kicks him in the head as he jumps over.2: Hleb and Fermandes are hammering each other all day, aroundthe 10th minute Fernandes has has enough and pushes Hleb who then smirks.
3: Messi and Alves created havoc on 3 ocassions up the left wing.
@Isaiah: explain the Messi score. You said you started at 5 for everyone and the went up or down depending on their performance. What did he do that took 3 points. Seems to me that if the argument is that he didn’t do anything then it should remain a 5, no?
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To be fair to messi he did have two attempts at goal. One free kick blocked and two streaking runs down each wing. He saw alot more touches of the ball when he was positioned on the right wing. He was also involved in the posession during the build up to the final goal. I dont really see messi as the running after throughballs type of player. If anything he makes others run with his genius throughballs.Although he was strolling around in the first half hour, he started hustling after opponents with the ball afterward. Its not as if he did absolutely nothing.
The rating could be higher if we consider messi is only a 21 year old youngster who still has alot of time to mature but yeah considering his legendary maradona like talent/status, 2 would definitely indicate he came up short.
Not really worrisome though. Even the current Ballon d’or winner disappears in big games. Granted he disappears in games where he plays in his preferred position but still every player goes through that.
Whats amazing is how the fans were still cheering him on after an average performance. Imagine the kind of response if he creates havoc against barcelona’s biggest rivals next week…
Then again……maybe it was my brilliant plan to keep messi out of the game and show everyone that there is no such thing as messidependence in FC Barcelona all along. Absolutely dismantling league leaders valencia 4-0 is no joke and to achieve that score without messi should really be noted. This score wasnt even a surprise to many. Thats right people, I am an absolute mastermind. Watch and marvel at my genius. lol
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Isaiah, Isaiah… You give a 2 to Messi for doing *once* what Henry has been doing (so you say, at least) for a year and a half, but I do not recall Kevin or you giving a 2 to Titi (nor a 3, a 4, or a 5 for that matter…).
Could that 2 be a case of what, in my poor English, I would call “inside trolling”?
By the way, regards to all of you from Kevin and company. It was easy to recognize him the day after the match: He was just like Thuram, yes, but high in a cloud and with a bib *this big* under his chin… As any other Barça soci and fan, he was still drooling after having seen such a superb demonstration of team spirit…
About Henry celebrating the second goal, pointing to his name and saying “I’m here, I’m here”: Well, it was about time, I would say! Now, please, *just stay there*, don’t dissappear again!
AND, I think we saw for the first time what Alves can really do for us… (going to fetch *another* bib for myself now…)
Guys, this is going to be great! Let’s enjoy it while it lasts and let’s thank Pep, Tito (Vilanova) and the rest of the technical staff for what they are doing.
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Now, hold on just a minute there, Genis. This is my first player rating for about a full year. I don’t do the ratings. That’s Kevin’s thing.
I think that I’ve been harsh on Henry for quite a while, but he has been getting better over the last 2 months. I have to admit that, as someone who tries to stay objective about these (and usually falls flat in so trying). Can’t say what I would have given Henry in particular matches when he turned in stinkers because I have never bothered to rate them before.
Tomatutomate, you are the only person to have pointed that out so far. It’s a fair point and one I considered before giving Messi the 2. The way I did it was, I thought about his contributions to the match by defining his role and then I took into account how often I was left wondering what he was doing and why. Granted, I didn’t watch the match twice like Kevin usually does, so perhaps I missed it, but as some others have suggested, they too were left wondering where Messi was more often than not. When I did notice him, he was screwing up. Yes, he had those interchanges with Alves and they were beautiful. But then for the next 30 minutes Messi would be walking around taking in the sights and sounds. That, to me, is unacceptable.
I very, very harshly criticized him at the time for his unwillingness to move towards the ball on several occasions when it was on the wing and he was in the middle. Is he a central striker? No, he’s not. But if we criticize Henry for not doing well on the left wing, we must criticize Messi for not doing well in the center. I blame Pep for putting him in that position as well.
I should have elaborated Pep’s 7 as well and perhaps I should have given him a 6 for his placement of Messi.
Also, Genis, yes, Messi put in a bad night’s work once, but once is all it takes to get a bad score. I’m not going to hold it against him in the next match.
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Henry on the upcoming El Classico
“This is el clasico and I will be going out there to win. I don’t care if Madrid are in crisis, if they have been losing or if they have a lot of injured players.
“In last season’s game, we had out own problems. [Lionel] Messi had only returned from injury, Ronaldinho was having a bad year, [Rafa] Marquez was unfit, [Samuel] Eto’o and Deco were suspended… but nobody cried for Barca and now we are not going to cry for Madrid,”
man is he pumped…
Go Titi…
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Fuckin’ A, Titi. That’s the spirit!
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we have to remember that EE have been unbeaten in El Classico for two seasons now..
so if we win…as i think we are….i really want to rub it in..and i hope that little shit Saviola starts so that Puyol can saw off his legs and Yaya rips his fuckin’ head right off
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Wow, Krish, I’d hate to see Figo’s car to break down in front of your house and him ask to use your phone to call the tow truck…
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ever seen the Texas Chainsaw massacre
take that..adda bit of The Hills have Eyes and the final scenes of The Godfather..
and voila thats what will happen to El PIGOPosted from
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Jesus…
You said it, meng. Nobody fucks with the Jesus.
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That first goal is brilliant. The ball from Yaya is pinpoint, the way Henry slides between the full back and the central defender, and Henry’s perfect finish. Henry is so dangerous on long balls, he has that Randy Moss thing where he adjusts to the ball better than the defenders and breaks open the play. I’m guessing Guardiola has worked on that in training, but anyway, more of that, please.
If I were Valencia’s manager, I would have those defenders in burlap bags and beaten with reeds for their insolence.
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heres the full speech of henry.
yeah go titi!!
i really want to take all this injury as a opportunity to KILL them, like 5-0 or better as rivaldo had shown us some time ago!yeah!Posted from
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I just wanted to say:IHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA…let’s crush REAL…”that’s the way aha aha ,I like it”
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eklavya, thanks for the link — I fixed it to make it a link as a part of your post.
Henry is definitely endearing himself to the cule faithful both on and off the field now. Bout time.
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Disagree with the ratings of Pedro & Hleb…I thought both played very well, particularly Hleb.
I’d add a criticism on Messi although I wouldn’t rate him a 2 for the match…2 suggests he was somehow a detriment and gave Valencia advantages left & right and I saw none of that…I will say, he too often is being too selfish on the ball and taking on 3 & 4 defenders when there are attackers open and capable of putting it in the back of the net…More glaring in this match because he never ended up on the scoresheet
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Yeah, Isaiah! ‘Bout time, ’bout f*cking time if I may add (if I may not, my apologies). Now that I had given up on Titi after all his baby shooting, his lack of spirit, and his re-whining *precisely* during that last month in which “he has been getting better”, he, finally, has been so kind, has deigned, to remind us who he is, why we signed him, why we pay him…
So, now that he’s showed us what he is capable to do (and I’m not talking only about the goals), now that he’s pointed so proudly -and deservedly- to his name in the shirt in front of all of us, reminding to all of us, “Hey, guys, I’m here too”, I must ask: Where have you been, then, Titi, this past year and a half? And, more importantly: Will you still be there, Titi, next time, or will you disappear again?
And if he excelled on Saturday because he knew that Kevin was there watching him, well, I still have time to hipnotize Kevin -or even kidnap him if need be- in order to make him stay and bring him with me to the Camp Nou every match until the end of the season…
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I’m with you FCBarca – that is something that I’ve noticed too; Messi is becoming, more and more, a bit of a ballhog. But hey – if 6 times out of 10 his trying to beat more than one player results in a genuine shot on goal, you can’t really complain
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