

Athletic 1 - Barcelona 1: End of the Triple Edition
By: Isaiah | January 28th, 2008It looks like we won’t be earning the Triple this year as Barcelona dropped 2 more “golden points” to Madrid by drawing 1-1 at San Mamés and fall to 9 points behind the “champions” from the capital. And as one reader pointed out in previous comments, they’re doing it with the style normally found at the Camp Nou, not at the Bernabeu.
I missed the game (un)fortunately, so not only did I not get to see the team squander away chances, but I failed to be able to see them do it in HD — I love you WorldSport HD!. Regardless, if the stats tell the story (and they usually don’t), then Athletic dominated. According to Soccernet’s stats, Athletic outshot Barca 17(6) to 8(2), which is, coupled with 60% possession in favor of Barca, means they were the more vertical team. And I don’t mean vertical in the Peter Crouch sense, I mean in the “hey look a goal, let’s go towards it” sense.
Rijkaard claims there’s still a chance we’ll win the league and I suppose he’s right. 17 games left and we’ve got 9 points to make up. Meaning all Real Madrid has to do is start sucking horrendously and we have to play, you know, not like ass. Assuming that we win in the Bernabeu 0-2, we’ll need them to lose twice and us win on both of those occasions and match Madrid the rest of the way. Technically feasible, but when you look at the fact that Barcelona is playing as if they’re stuck in hardening cement, who is going to bet against the merengues at this point.*
Bojan goal was a beauty, but it involved Messi playing in the center, a position I’ve railed against in the past. Messi is not a central striker, especially when you have Thierry Henry on the field. Sure, Messi is talented as all get out, but as a winger, not a forward. Countless times Rijkaard has pushed Messi to the middle and I have yet to see it create a goal (Bojan’s was a lucky rebound — and as a disclaimer, I don’t know if it has or hasn’t created goals in the any game, but I’ve never personally been witness to one, that’s all). So why don’t we start with that lineup against Villarreal? Hell, why not. We don’t need any goals or anything.
Rijkaard said less jogo bonito, more goals. But what we need is, really, something to light a fire under the asses of everyone out there. The defense is working its ass off and the midfield is mailing it in. Normally it’s our defense that lets us down, but we’re on freaking Cell Block D lockdown over here and no one is guarding the gates. The offense is playing fairly well, but Xavi is the definition of shit right now and should not start. But of course he will since he’s a studious, quiet character that Rijkaard probably needs backing him. Xavi isn’t the type to speak out much and he really does just go about his business, but he happens to be doing it very badly right now. So he should be subbed.
Deco should be subbed too, but you do have to start 11 players. Ronaldinho’s supposed return against Villarreal may provide a way to bench Deco, but at what price? Ronnie has been playing like crap and only 4 or 5 brilliant games in a row will return him to his prior untouchable status. Perhaps with Henry, Bojan, and Messi out there he can become a creative player again, rather than the finisher, but we’ll have to wait until Wednesday Thursday to find that out.
More later, when I get the chance to think about some of these things, put them into perspective better (we’re 2nd in the league, not 18th), and come up with a potential solution to all our problems (Ross Perot!).
*Me, of course, cause I’m both a fan and an idiot. $5 anyone?
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No doubt Laporta will give Yaya hell when he returns from national duty. His performance today made certain that Diarra, Keita, and Kanoute will be returning to Spain sooner than later. Though I beleive at the time he was talking about injury concerns, I just remember chuckling when Laporta encouraged his players not to give it their all when on National duty, or something to that effect.
On that note, I’m a staunch supporter of country over club, and was embarrassed that Diarra stayed with us [Madrid] at the end of last season. This primarily comes for my love of Spain, and the Spanish National side, and the fact that the teams aren’t chosen based on monetary clout. This year we saw how political it can get, regardless, but as I’ve mentioned before on your post, Isaiah, seeing Sergio Ramos, Puyol and Casillas defending for Spain makes me swoon (perhaps all you’re hearing right now is classic Madridista Centralist babble, but I like to think it’s something else.)
Anyhow, part of the reason I’m writing all of this now, is that you [Isaiah] got me all riled up with your talk of La Liga football. It probably would have sufficed just to say - I completely agree with you.
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If Mourinho would motivate the players I’m all for it. but hey, whoever it is they’ll surely be a better man manager than Rijkaard. He can keep happy players happy but thats it.
What I really would like is if Txiki did more good dealings in the transfer market. Yaya, Abidal, Milito and Henry were good. But there’s a lot of dead weight in this squad at the minute. I hate to say it cause I havent done in years… Real Madrid have a better squad than us. Every one of their players is competitive and hungry except for Saviola, who probably isn’t over Rijkaard yet.
The best players Barca have are all either home grown or new to the team.Posted from
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True that, Ciaran. Xavi, Deco, Sylvinho, Oleguer (a Rijkaard favorite), Edmilson….I can see them all going. But we’re a few of the right players away from being the side we deserve to be (and a new coach).
Lahm and Drogba would go a long way toward salving some of the ailments. Drogba is precisely the kind of big, strong striker that could have broken the Bilbao game open.
What’s really missing is energy. If anyone has access, look at Barca during the Champions League year. What movement and aggression.
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Hey,
I thought the return leg was on Thursday rather than Wednesday!Posted from
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Pepino, you’re right, it’s on Thursday. They keep switching the times around and it’s really annoying. As of right now (Tuesday 7:30pm EST), it’s on Thursday at 4pm EST.
As for the transfers, I have no problem bringing in Lahm for him to fight for the right-back position; we need a backup for Abidal, a replacement for Larsson (still), and some drive in the midfield. I think we’ve got the players to be who we were in 2005-06, but I’m just not sure where all the energy went. Hopefully Ronnie’s return will help us out.
Jay and I seem to be the only Henry detractors left, but I do think that Henry is failing to provide the goalscoring that everyone expected. He is great for Bojan, however, but I think Eto’o would be too by being there consistently, for a change, and drawing defenders away. Messi on the WING would also be nice.
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I forgot to mention — Drogba’s inclusion would rule out Eto’o and that is not something I’m even remotely prepared to accept. Eto’o is the man up front until his knees actually detach themselves from his legs and wander off. And they’ll probably still score a few goals by themselves.
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Isaiah,
Sevilla doesn’t have any cracks. We have gaping holes.
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Kevin, I can see all the players you mentioned going, except for Xavi. I think he can recover his form and do what he has always done for us. Also, being a junior, he will be very reluctant to leave and Barca will be reluctant to sell.
Lahm would be brilliant, especially with Zambrotta looking like he’s going to leave. As for Drogba, I don’t doubt his brilliance, but as Isaiah said, I am not prepared to let him replace Eto’o. In about 2 seasons Bojan will be a starter anyway.
And Nolan, I ws originally leaning towards Mourinho, but I’m with you, Valvarde would be great. Personally I don’t think that it will happen. If we rule out Mourinho and Valvarde, what other candidates are there?
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Even though I long for E’to and Toure’s return, I can’t help hoping they do their best in ANC. Anytime a blaugrana shines in international competition, it elevates the club. And by the way, my “womancrush” extends beyond Yaya, for me, I eat, sleep, and dream, MESSI! As for the ANC, I only hope and pray that Ronaldinho is up to the task in their absence. If he comes out shining, I do believe he can swing the momentum of the entire team in the right direction. For now we’ll just have to wait with bated breath.
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I dunno, lads. Given the proficiency from other attacking angles that Eto’o has been demonstrating, I can see he and Drogba working together very nicely. The front line is Krkic, Messi, Drogba and Eto’o. Drogba is the only one who can’t play on the wing or in the middle. We could even play two strikers.
Henry sits, to come off the bench when needed. He hasn’t brought the goods. I still am not sure if that’s because of how he’s being played by defenses, Rijkaard, or if he’s just done. I hope it’s the first or the second, because I just can’t believe the striker who wore the Arsenal kit so proudly is the mostly ineffective one we now have. There HAS to be something more to it.
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Drogba and Mourhino? And why not John Terry and Peter Cech while you’re at it. Barca really had no bigger rival from 1995 to ‘97 than Chelsea. It would be completely ridiculous to go out and buy their coach or best player. It would defeat the whole concept of rooting for a team. You are Barca fans, not Chelsea fans. The fact that Barcelona actually does have a team identity, and doesn’t just throw out ridiculous sums of money every year to lure the highest paid players (i.e. Chelsea, Real Madrid and the Yankees) is one of the appealing things about them.
Regarding the Drogba vs. Eto’o question, I think Drogba said he wants to come to Barcelona to play with Eto’o, so getting rid of Eto’o is unlikely.
Regarding Xavi, he is playing terrible. I’ve thought for a long time that it is big mistake to play Xavi, Inesta and Deco at the same time. Together, they epitomize Barca’s weaknesses-too much passing, easily dominated by more physical players, no ability to head balls from a set piece. Of the three Xavi seems to add the least. But somehow his role as a team leader always seems to overshadow his liability.Posted from
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Well Tim, I think it depends upon whether you view teams as the colors, or the players/coaches. I think that some players are inseparable from teams. I could no more see John Terry not wearing Chelsea blue than I could see Puyol not wearing the Blaugrana.
But certain other players, who are iconic but less identifiable with a certain side, have more malleability. Yes, certain players are psychologically off limits. I would rather see the Camp Nou swallowed by the bowels of Hades before I’d see, say, Guti wearing the Blaugrana.
But it’s also my obligation as a fan to back the side, however it chooses to go about its business. I would boo the telly whenever he touched the ball, but if they wanted to sign Guti, or Raul, or Casillas, it would affect my love for the side not a whit.
Also, players in this day and age of big money, are more mobile. Football is joining other sports, such as Formula One or American football, in that camp. Whether it’s good is another matter. The strong get stronger, the weak get the dregs….on paper. But most teams are also multinational corporations, who want to spend as much as they can to ensure the best results.
I think that our team identity is intact because of its core. Puyol, Iniesta, Messi, Valdes….these are Blaugrana to the core. But I also think that the colors are bigger than the player wearing them. Arsenal, despite not starting a single English player, is still Arsenal. Gunner fans would go to the wall for the side.
But you’re right, it’s an interesting thing, separating players from teams, and the notion of team identity. Look at Bilbao and its committment to players of a certain heritage, and keeping the team concept a pure one. It’s interesting to consider, sort of in line with the UEFA notion that teams in a country’s top flight should have a minimum number of players from that country. Is Arsenal still Arsenal with no English players in the side? Is Barca still Barca with Drogba up front and Mourinho on the sideline?
Heck yeah, I say.
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apparently Deco got caught driving drunk.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/soccer/01/29/bc.soc.deco.drunkdrivin.ap/index.html
i wonder how this will effect his playing time
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Drogba and Eto’o on the same team? That would be like if Henry went and played on the same team as, like… Eto’o.
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Ry M, since it already happened on Jan 17, I can’t imagine that this will impact Deco’s playing time. It does, however, make him more of a jerk in my eyes. And I know that concerns him deeply.
John, good point.
Eto’o scored another penalty (third of the tournament) and is now the all-time leading scorer at the ANC. Congrats, Samu!
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Yaya had a good game too, accounting for one Cote d’Ivoire goal off a pass, and another off a rebound-causing shot. Hey, why did he stop unleashing those bombs from long-range that he used to do?
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Kevin, I think Barca is still Barca with Drogba up front — but NOT with Mourinho as manager. I’m an admirer of Mourinho’s, and I think he did fantastic at Chelsea and Porto. But his style is inimical to Barca’s. He is a proponent of percentage football: do enough to win, and don’t try to entertain. That’s okay for many teams, not Barca. I may regret saying this (heck, I already have, many times, in the past) but I’d rather lose with flair than win without.
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Porto with Mourinho on the sidelines managed to win the European Cup without as much talent as we have, and played the right brand of football. He had the players with talent express themselves and the team working hard.
What is wrong with defenders defending and attackers attacking?… Well Cules expect slightly more. He wanted attacking fullbacks at Chelsea (Cole and Alves) but only got half. I would love if we could get Wenger so that we could play Barca football againPosted from
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I think that Barca is the colors, the side and Camp Nou. I think that it’s bigger than anyone or anything, than the style of football any coach espouses, bigger than even Guti in the Blaugrana (but just barely
).Wenger would be a brillant grab, but he isn’t leaving Arsenal any time soon. He has a great deal, and they get whatever player he wants, within reason. Why leave there?
I think that coaches will play to the talent that they have. I probably would have played the same style of football as Chelsea with the group that they had. They went about as far as they could. The first rule of the game for most coaches, I think, is don’t concede goals. Then you see what happens from there. It’s a safe bet that with Milito in the side, that Llorente goal doesn’t happen on Sunday. He’s that lockdown kind of defender that every coach loves, and he doesn’t roam too far upfield. His rule is when in doubt, kick it out.
If you look at Chelsea’s front line during the Mourinho days, aside from Drogba, they didn’t really have the freewheeling kind of potential that we have, even when Robben was healthy.
I don’t really know who the best coach is for us right now. I just know it isn’t Rijkaard. It was when the lads were motivated and galvanized. Then all he had to do was submit the lineups and turn them loose. Things are more complex now. I feel like even Serie A teams are playing more open, flowing football than we are. Watching that Juventus/Inter Coppa Italia match yesterday reminded me of what it’s like when a team says let’s move the ball and score some goals. To heck with possession and passes, let’s put the thing in the net.
I want those days back for us.
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Oh, and Henry, Abidal and Thuram were all named to the France squad for next week’s friendly.
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Whew! Busy morning! Over at Goal.com they have a list of the all-time best Barca 11.
http://goal.com/en-US/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=567554
Those not down with visiting: Rammallets, Migueli, Koeman, Puyol, Kabala, Laudrup, Cruyff, Romario, Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Stoichkov
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Rammallets? Really? Above Zubizarreta and Zamora himself? I mean, I know Zamora wasn’t all that great with us (and he played mainly for Espanyol and Real Madrid)…but he’s freakin’ Ricardo Zamora…And if you think about it, a certain Diego Maradona played for Barcelona as well…
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Um…I disagree with several calls during this game.
Vaya penalti!
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Yeah..thats right. Karma. (referring to the penalty miss)
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Ryan, I agree with you. See the top post and the comments.
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