Barcelona 0 - 0 ManU: Stalemate in Spain Edition

By: Isaiah | April 23rd, 2008


So what’s to say about a game that ended 0-0 with few shots on goal? Well, first, thank you for missing that penalty Cronaldo. That’s the first thing. The second thing is to scratch my head and wonder how it is that Barcelona didn’t score. The third and final thought I have is a little more long-winded and deals with tactics. And isn’t really a singular thought at all, but a full-fledged review.

The starting lineup was an adventure, that’s for sure: Valdes, Zambrotta, Marquez, Milito, Abidal, Toure, Xavi, Deco, Iniesta, Messi, Eto’o. That sort of formation isn’t something you see out of Frank Rijkaard every day and were it not for Deco’s lack of match fitness, I would have been very much in favor of such a lineup. As it was, it worked out fairly well, except for the times when Deco was obviously a little out of sorts, couldn’t link up with his teammates, and lost the ball in important positions. That’s to be expected, though, and I don’t mean for that comment to come off as derogatory towards Deco at all. I understand full well that Rijkaard is playing with what he’s got, but it just smacks of bad timing to throw Deco out there for his first game since March 4.

The counter by Alex Ferguson was equally odd, though, at least to me: Van der Saar, Ferdinand, Brown, Evra, Scholes, Hargreaves, Park, Carrick Cronaldo, Rooney, Tevez. With that kind of lineup you’d expect an attacking side to come out on the field, but it was pretty much the opposite. After winning the initial exchanges, Cronaldo boot the ball wide of the post from the spot and it was all Barcelona from there. Evra played very well on the left wing, but was beaten a few times by Messi (which is like saying he played very well on the left wing because who is perfect?). If it weren’t for Evra’s timely tackles, it would have been a hundred to nothing by the end. Messi was on it tonight and wasn’t backing down.

And then Rijkaard subbed him and the game ended 0-0. I mean what the hell. Your back is against the wall in a championship race, you are one mistake from getting booted out of Europe, and you sub out Lionel Messi when he doesn’t want to be subbed out? Good call, Frankie boy. I mean, seriously? What are you thinking? That Krkic is going to be better than Messi? I’m sorry, but as much love as I have for the kid, he’s no Saint Messi and he’s not going to beat ManU. It’s not just that he took off Messi, it’s that in so doing, Rijkaard left a flat-footed, terrible Eto’o on the field. Samu, who I love and think of as the best striker in the world right now, stunk to high heaven. Every touch was wrong, every move was the opposite of what he should have done. When he finally got in on goal instead of putting a shot between the sticks, he boots it lamely wide.

So you sub him. That’s what subs are for: using. They’re not window dressing, you know. Put Henry on for Eto’o in the 60th if you have to wait that long and see what he can do in the middle of the field. Or you can pout about how 0-0 isn’t a good result in your post-match press conference. You could do that. I’m peeved at the decisions, to be honest. I yelled at the TV when Messi went out that if you want to throw away the Champions League, this is the way to do it. And here we are, 0-0. It’s not a bad result, not the result it could have been had C.Ronaldo not C.Rapped his pants, because we were never going to score. ManU played the right defense against us and knew that we were pushing Deco up against them without any sort of pace or precision. We almost got one in, but that’s the aforementioned moment Eto’o chose to C.Rap his particular pair of shorts. So we just need to score in Old Trafford.

Scoring is when the ball goes into the opponent’s net, in case you’ve forgotten. Winning is not necessary in Old Trafford, but in order to advance, we must figure out how to put the ball in zee nets. Perhaps we’ll rediscover our touch against Deportivo, which, if we draw or lose, means we’re all but eliminated from the La Liga title race. Sooooo, let’s win that one, eh boys?

Player assessments:

Valdes: 5. He didn’t do anything.
Zambrotta: 6. He did well defensively and was definitely doing his offensive duty, it’s just that he had to keep looking over his shoulder to make sure Cronaldo wasn’t going to get too much freedom on the counter.
Marquez: 7. Would have been an 8 but for that yellow card. He kept the ManU offensive in check along with his fellow central defenders.
Milito: 6. Can’t argue with the Butcher of Bernal not getting a yellow, but that handball costs him two points, fo sheezy.
Abidal: 7. Did his job on Rooney and did it well. Only one barftastic moment in which he totally fouled Cronaldo in the box, but got away with it so he loses nothing. Phew.
Toure: 8. Did what a midfield assassin does: assassinated. That’s a fun word to say: assassin. Kuwabatake Sanjuro, Codename: Toure.
Xavi: 7. He cleaned up, picked off passes, provided good movement through the center of the field.
Iniesta: 6. SPF45 gets a lower score because he didn’t create enough and threw himself at the ground too much.
Deco: 5. What can you expect from a guy who is coming off a month and a half of injury time?
Messi: 8. Had the juices flowing, just no goals to show for it. Of course, when you’re constantly taking on 3 defenders, you look a little lamer than when you can consistently beat one guy.
Eto’o: 2. Blah. Get outta here with that junk. If I wanted Guddie, I’d ask for Guddie.




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  • cf10 |  April 24th, 2008 at 3:47 pm

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    i thought we became a bit too predictable, not doing much except passing it around the edges, not really creating chances, but what else is new? i think this was a game wherer the team was missing ronaldinho’s creativity, for say what you want, but he’s still the best offensive playmaker barca have. yes messi may be quicker and be able to beat more 1v1, but he does not yet have the vision r10 had. also, barca really need some work on free kicks. in teh first have tehy had like 10 where they did nothing.

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  • ballbeav |  April 24th, 2008 at 5:10 pm

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    “It’s the best of the results we didnt want.”

    It was telling that I was even happy with Zambrotta’s performance. To a man, we played very well. and marquez did just enough.

    I don’t like the idea of putting Henry on from the start in the 2nd leg, as some have suggested. I really like the line up we had. I mean, who are you going to sacrifice? The only reasonable options are deco and eto’o.

    Eto’o? Yes, Eto’o is a bit off, but he will pop up. He *can* finish, and i see his first touch was a bit better in this match. There was just very little space to operate in. And his tireless running at the back 4 of United can not be matched by Henry. This pressure is much needed. Even though he does not win the ball, he forces rash passes into the midfield, which we were often able to cut off.

    Deco? The reason we maintained such possession of the ball is also because we had all the mighty mites in full effect. The triumvirate of Deco, Xavi and Iniesta can not be matched, when they are playing well. Obviously Deco is not 100% but he played damn well. Frankly i think Deco was somewhat of a sneak attack by Rijkaard. Fergie had not seen the 3 mighty mites play together, and maybe didnt expect it.

    yes, when henry came on for Deco, he was able to warm the palms of Van Der Sar. But then he tried the exact same thing a couple minutes later, a long blast from a similar position on the field, and showed poor judgement — anyone could have seen his shot wasnt gonna get through, and sure enough, it was deflected back to midfield. It looked like his desire to score impaired his decision making ability on that one. I would need to watch the game again, but i felt that when henry came on, and deco left, we lost a bit of our shape in midfield, and we didnt dominate possession quite the way we had in the first 77 minutes.

    Henry is best used as a late sub, like in yesterday’s match. Im with the coach on this one.

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  • ballbeav |  April 24th, 2008 at 5:17 pm

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    stat from the barca website: xavi was the most involved of any player in the match yesterday, participating in 136 “actions” of the game, making 126 passes and connecting on 110. that’s about 90% accuracy.

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  • jake |  April 24th, 2008 at 7:02 pm

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    110/126 is pretty amazing. He had a rough patch this season, but now he’s come back out on top.

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  • Jenny |  April 24th, 2008 at 10:08 pm

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    Great assessment Isaiah! You couldn’t have known about the Messi thing, besides it’s better to doubt the coach’s decision than venture into the unthinkable. Let’s pray it’s nothing.

    The ESPN announcer mentioned that Man U. supporters appreciated the beautiful game. If that’s really the case they outta be pretty pissed off at that anti-footballing display. If your playing for the Cup of all cups, how about bringing both sides of your game? I’m pretty sure the NY Gaints didn’t go into the Superbowl thinking, “it doesn’t matter if we score as long as we can keep them from scoring on us.” Come on and Man U.p, bring your A-game, not some tactical, defense-only bullshit game! I guess I’m just looking to egg on some Man U.p supporters and no doubt their team will bring the A-game to OT! It’s just too bad they’ll only get to see their team play one and half games against Barca instead of two.

    I just had another thought, the glass being half full, maybe that was their A-game and Toure, Deco, and Xavi are the next in line to be canonized in Rome…St. Yaya, St. Xavi, St. Deco. They have a nice ring to them, you have to admit!

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  • jake |  April 25th, 2008 at 1:40 am

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    Just reading on goal.com that they think Henry will start, but for Iniesta or Xavi. Don’t out him on the fucking wing! The man is a striker, not a winger!

    I want Fabregas.

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  • Ethan |  April 25th, 2008 at 3:57 am

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    how to play the second leg?

    i expect United to be in something actually resembling a 4-4-2 this time. they’ll come out of the blocks Jesus-speed (the Jesus in this case being very fast), Barca will probably have an early storm to weather. if they can weather it, they’ll get chances. if Barca score the first goal, Manchester will throw the kitchen sink at them and this could become an all-time classic. the danger is that United score early, tune into God-mode and run Barca ragged as they did to Roma last season. Ferguson seems able to set them up to stifle as seen at Camp Nou, but he’s always been unable to get them to change their plan once they go ahead; they’ll just keep coming forward. and maybe, there’s hope for Barca in that.

    me? i’m hoping Barca score first and we finally get the game and the memories the first leg still owes us.

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  • Kxevin |  April 25th, 2008 at 5:39 am

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    Word, Jake. And Jenny, over at Football365.com, the Man U supporters are up in arms at the negative display, crowing about being “chickens,” or some sort of critter.

    I watched the match again last night, and am still chuckling at that move that Messi put on Evra, using the knee for that last bit of control, just to rub it in. Damn, that was slick.

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  • Ste |  April 25th, 2008 at 7:46 am

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    I’m a red and to be honest I can’t really make an argument that disagrees with anything you have said so far. You played, we sat back let you. It wasn’t good (from a Utd perspective) to watch.

    However, a true reflection of our talents it certainly was not, if you take into consideration a few factors its not hard to understand why we play like that away from home in the ECL.

    Fergie, for one reason or another, has always admired the Trappatoni’s or Lippi’s of this world, the Italian way is something he strives to emulate in Europe because, and unfortunately for me (and many other reds) he believes this to be our best hope of winning the ECL. He has done for many a season, and has thus far (’99 apart)been proved wrong.

    We are in a unique position at Utd, we have a manager who is the very essence of the club, he has been there for nearly 23 years and has created side after side playing ‘the United way’ except, it would seem, in Europe. The input of new ideas, the fresh impetus, is lacking, because Fergie remains in charge. The man is a legend and the character and resolve he brings to the team is something I dont see emulated anywhere, there is a togetherness at United the like of which you rarely see at a ‘Big’ club, and that has been the case throughout Fergie’s reign.

    We will remain an enigma in Europe until Fergie either sees the light (or drops the sheer bloody-mindedness) and tries to play the football we see week in week out from United, or until we get a new man in charge.

    On a personal level, I’d love it we had the bottle (or nerve or confidence) to take you on in your own back yard. We are after all (Reds) used to seeing the beautiful game regularly, only not so much away in the champions league.

    Here’s to an amazing second leg, I think, if this criticism of Uniteds display continues until Tuesday (and I hope it does!!)then you Barcelona fans may well be in for a shock come Tuesday night.

    Scoring once at OT may well not be beyond you, but I think you’re going to need more that that.

    Good blog this guys, partizan yes, but able to discuss things rationally. A few Roma fans could do with looking this over.

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  • ballbeav |  April 25th, 2008 at 8:04 am

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    @ STE, correct, the neutral fan does not like displays like that put on by ManU on wednesday. it was liverpool-esque. but no one really remembers that if they win. fergie is a strategist so i dont think we can really blame them.

    but even that being the strategy, ManU played poorly. they couldnt string any passes together because we just stepped right in, clowing them at every turn. but then again their offensive players didnt always have enough support around to make anything happen. still, their passing accuracy will have to greatly improve if they have any hope at OT, because home crowd only goes so far.

    the intangible here is the fatigue factor, since ManU has to work hard domestically at the weekend, while we can afford to (and will) rest players against Depor.

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  • ballbeav |  April 25th, 2008 at 8:06 am

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    i meant “clowning,” not clowing. like, we made em look like clowns. or maybe we were the clowns, hitting them on the head with our giant SHOES.

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  • Ste |  April 25th, 2008 at 8:24 am

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    It was a combination of poor football and poor mentality ballbeav, and also an illustration of Fergies ineptness in Europe at times.

    If he sent them out to play, with a positive vibe, good football usually follows, he sent them out to let YOU play though, and once the seed of negativity is planted….well, you all saw how bad it was, even when we did get the ball all we managed to find was either the byline or a Barca player.

    I do believe (to all those that only watch United in Europe) it is naive of anyone to think that we will play like that again. Roma at the Olimpico last year is an example, we almost played as badly in that game and we were lucky to come away only 2-1 down.

    The second leg was slightly different though…

    I’m in no position to say we’re going to kiss your arse, but I wouldn’t be at all surprised if we did.

    I’m quite liking the fact some of you guys are saying things like “your only hope” and such, shows the tables have turned since a week ago.

    Perhaps we’re the underdogs now eh?;-)

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  • ballbeav |  April 25th, 2008 at 8:38 am

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    well, all the pundits say that the result favors ManU, but cmon now. if ManU actually tries to attack, therefore leaving spaces behind, and still passes poorly like they did on wednesday, Barca will win, or at least tie.

    but dont get me wrong, i have watched ManU play several times this year and i know they were not playing their A-game. i was surprised at their passing display. i still fear them if they can string it together. Barca is a mixed bag this year so i still think ManU has to be a slight favorite. heh heh.

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  • Ste |  April 25th, 2008 at 9:05 am

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    Yeah, I think if we play the expansive game I expect us to play then you guys are going to have more space to exploit, it goes without saying therefore that if we pass like we did at Camp Nou then you are going to destroy us.

    I think, however, that what has been slightly overlooked in all this is how Barca are going to set there stall out. If they come to OT and attack us, then the same premise about you getting space also works in our favour too. The consequence, for you, of being allowed more space, will be the fact that we will be operating more in your third of the field, to expect ot come to OT and dominate is unrealistic, irrespective of the display we put up at Camp Nou.

    However a little savvy from Rijkaard, an early goal, and mentally you could undo us. All so often in the past we have been found wanting when cool heads are the order of the day. I think Barca should try and inject a little pace into their play at OT, more of the same slow build up play we saw at your place and I think the game will pass you by. If, however, Barca take us on at our on game then it could be one hell of a battle.

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  • ballbeav |  April 25th, 2008 at 9:19 am

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    we don’t know how to sit back and counter. so it’s gonna be a freakin’ exciting match, lots of running…fatigue could come into play, again why the domestic weekend’s expenditures could be brought to bear.

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  • Ste |  April 25th, 2008 at 9:50 am

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    I wouldn’t be surprised if Fergie plays a weakened team at the bridge and hopes we eke out a result. It’s not imperative we get a result at Chelsea, we have more than one chance to win the league.

    Tuesday is the biggie for me!

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  • john |  April 25th, 2008 at 9:58 am

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    Two notes I’d like to add, though collectively the analysis of the match and the seperate performances, tactics, etc. has been very thorough and astute. Firstly, I think the one player that hasn’t gotten his due (some praise, yes, but in my opinion not enough) is Abidal. I was critical of his spot as starter, thinking he’d be outpaced on the left. But what he lacked in pace, he made up in smarts. Man, he played the clever defense out there, knowing where to position himself and how to redirect the ball to maintain control. Sure, maybe his passes could’ve been a bit more incisive, but he played a huge role in barca’s dominance of possesion. Time after time I found myself shaking my head and muttering ‘Man, that was smart.’ A thinking man’s baller, him.

    The second point, to add to ballbeav and Ste’s conversation: Barca will do well to repeat the key tactical element they displayed in the first game, an element Spanish teams execute perhaps better than any in the world: disrupting the midfield. Man U, from what I’ve seen, and when at their best, spread out the midfield and develop their pace/attacks from that point, then flood their way into the box. It’s extremely intimidating, and effective, but relies on the solid unity and cohesion of the mid four. This is where Xavi and Yaya come in, and once again, Barca’s success will depend on their ability to be destructive. That’s my take, anyhow.

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  • Kxevin |  April 25th, 2008 at 10:26 am

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    HA! John, I gave Abidal much love in my comments in various places. His strong play was key at the times that Man U decided to actually come out and play football. I said something about him finally looking like the guy we thought we got from Lyon. And it’s about time.

    And Yaya is the X factor. He was magisterial at Camp Nou, but Man U weren’t all that in the mood to test him all that much. Yet every time they did, the midfield was closed. He’s another guy who, despite that slow-looking, shambling sort of running style, is always in the right spot.

    I also think that one reason we looked so good against Man U is they, like us, like possession. I think that we play that game better than anyone in the world when we’re on. That was the value of Deco. His one-touch stuff was working really well. He gets into trouble when he contracts Barca dribble-itis.

    I think that the second match will be the one that everyone was expecting to see.

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  • IceMel |  April 25th, 2008 at 10:41 am

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    This game reminded me of a “knife fight” I remember from middle school. Both guys we’re scared shitless and not about to take a risk of actually getting stabbed. So they circled and lunged till the campus cop got too close and then shook, made up with their “honor” intact. Both Barca-ManU sides to a man seemed just a half a step nervous.

    That said, I think it was the most scintilating game of the year save the 3-2 Celtic extravaganza. 13th inning Yankees\RedSox stuff for 90 minutes.

    This weekend’s league games will counterbalance the slight edge I think ManU gets from the draw.

    First stab wins.

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  • Jenny |  April 25th, 2008 at 11:54 am

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    Interesting analogy IceMel, but I think you’re right. First “stab” is essential at OT. I thought there was a lot of nervousness on the pitch, but maybe a little more so on the Man U. side. The tide of nerves shifted dramatically in our favor after C. Ronaldo choked from the spot. After that Barca seemed to relax in their game better than Man U. Something else no one has mentioned as of yet is the presence of #2 and #3 in the world. Surely the debate exists that currently C. Ronaldo should be #1 for next year, but watching the two superstars on the pitch is like a gunslinger’s showdown of sorts. Messi is so highly entertaining to watch and his movement, even with a trio of defenders, was still impressive. #3 did not impress at the Camp Nou. I’d look for Tuesday to be the real test, call it the “showdown at the OT corral”.

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  • john |  April 25th, 2008 at 11:55 am

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    Kevin - I acknowledge that Abidal was given credit, but still I felt he deserved more. Whatever, great review, comments, posts. Keep it up, guys. I’ll be rooting for Barca next Tuesday.

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  • Jenny |  April 25th, 2008 at 12:23 pm

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    John, you make the evil empire look too good! Certainly you’re a blaugrana at heart. This would explain everything; your sensibility, rationality, and your frequent visits to this incredibly insightful blog. Isaiah and Kxevin, keep up the great work, who knows, maybe a conversion is in John’s future.

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  • john |  April 25th, 2008 at 1:06 pm

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    Thanks for the kind words, Jenny. I wouldn’t frequent the page if it weren’t for its par excellence in commenting, analysis and opinion. In the end, though, it’s Blanco or bust for this Spanish football fan - though Getafe possess a strange power to pluck at my (everyone’s?) heart-strings.

    p.s. That said, it would be great to hear some of your comments at the Madrid page, as well as the other Spanish team pages - it’s always great to see outside commentary, which tends to sluff off some of the ‘partizan’ perspective, as Ste put it.

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  • Kxevin |  April 25th, 2008 at 1:15 pm

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    I would visit the “other” page, John, but my hands start bleeding every time I start typing over there. :D

    Agreed about the mood over here. And as a vet of many a message board/blog, it’s great the way things stay cool over here.

    Isaiah gave Abidal a 7 above, but would have rated him as high as Yaya. I do wish he weren’t so erratic. If he plays like that the whole season, I think we’re better off in the standings. Certainly we don’t concede one of the Almeria goals.

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  • IceMel |  April 25th, 2008 at 4:10 pm

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    Yeh Jenny I agree, ManU were more out of sorts. Those looks of “this can’t be happening to us!” on the face of Dr Cristiano von Doom, Roo-nor and others were priceless.

    But the Barca nerves persisted to some extent the entire game, not enough to throw the ball away like the Red Devils did but enough to put a 3rd touch (personally or collectively) on the ball where 2 and a shot would’ve at least caused some kind of danger. Kind of like they were holding their breath (though still managing to kick ManU around.) I’m really impressed they didn’t tire..I thought for sure they needed to go one up in first half or be done in later. I’m encouraged , this is the Barca team that can take it all.

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