Barcelona 1 - 0 Osasuna: Holy Bejesus Hay Liga Edition

By: Isaiah | February 4th, 2008

Going from a bored, downtrodden fan wishing his team would show some life to a beaming, screaming, semi-intoxicated imbecile with a blaugrana shirt on takes approximately half of a second. That’s the time, by my official stopwatch, between when I realized the ball was going to fall to Xavi and when Xavi pegged a picture-perfect first-time life-league-and-happiness-saver into the back of the net. It was 0-0, the door opened by Real Madrid’s 2-0 away loss to Almeria was being slammed shut — repeatedly, on my head — and suddenly it was as if heaven opened up and instead of the monsoon that hit the Camp Nou, it was all bunnies and fairytales.

Xavi! Xavi! Golazo de Xavi! I don’t know how many times I yelled Xavi while the team piled on top of him and the stadium was, I’m sure, screaming the same thing. Are the Madrid faithful shaken? Probably not, but the Barcelona faithful are starting to come around again and for some reason it feels like the dawning of a new moment, a new race, a new team with the ambition, the drive to put away a frustrating day. We were beautiful in our attack in the first half and insufferable in the second. Changes that needed to be made weren’t made, players were played out of position, and the team got frustrated, but in the end it was 3 points closer to the leaders. Oh boy oh boy oh boy! Despite the glaring deficiencies in the second half display, the squad came together and were actually joyful that they had scored, a sight I hadn’t seen for quite a while (since Bojan scored for the first time in the Camp Nou and Henry tried to have a baby with him…er, at least he was really happy anyway) and since it was the whole team, it seems like this is, indeed, something we can take advantage of next week at Sevilla. And we’ll need it too. Luis Fabiano can’t stop scoring, after all.

On to the game, to discussing it, a little bit:

The first half was a doozy of a display and could have been 3-0 had it not been for some timely defending by Osasuna (and nothing should be taken away from their gritty display) and, of course, for the downpour that worked against Barcelona’s prefered style of play. Apparently it tired Messi out, but he and Bojan were lively, if somewhat inconsequential in the end. The thing that kills me, that will continue to kill me until we’re winning 3-0 with the tactic, is putting Messi in the middle as a central striker. Why not just give up right from the start? A team that builds along the wing more effectively should not be forced to build through the middle with a solitary striker going it alone. That’s what wing play is for, to give the striker additional support. But of course we aren’t doing that because that’s now how our players are designed. Attack directly, Rijkaard says, as he gives no tactical support, no way through a tightly packed defense that knows exactly what you’re doing.

The difference between this game and the Villarreal game is exactly why Messi should be used exclusively as a wing player who cuts in, rather than a central player who cuts out. Messi is better going towards goal than away from it, better with the ball at his feet than in the air waiting to meet it with a header, and better as a close-range passer than at crossing in the air to targets, especially when the targets are not good at heading either. So why put him in the middle where he’ll be the recipient of silly, useless crosses that physically abuse him (going toe-to-toe in the air with a big central defender is not my idea of a fun day at the park)?

Exactly the same goes for Ronaldinho, to be honest. He was just sort of stuck up there and left to rot. That he almost got on the end of some balls was a testament to his renewed interest in giving to the Barcelona cause and I think I’m now firmly and completely set in stone about him. I want him to stay until he’s an old man unable to run. That may be only two or three years, but I definitely want him to stay until the end of his contract. The thing is, I want this only if he’s played in the positions that make him formidable. Either left forward, where Henry is currently holding slow-mo court, or as an attacking midfield playmaker, where Deco is currently holding star-gazing lessons. The point is, really, that playing either Messi or Ronaldinho as a central striker fails to take advantage of their natural gifts (vision, agility) far more than it would to put Henry in the middle. Let’s look at the facts of it: Messi is 5′7″ max, Ronaldinho is 6′0″ max, and Henry is 6′2″ min. Okay. Ronaldinho and Messi cross the ball very well, especially Ronnie. Henry is a potent goal poacher. Ronnie and Messi have the ability to run at opponents and create from cramped midfield positions. Henry cannot. Henry can create space in the box with his physical presence. Ronaldinho and Messi cannot. Hmm. Seems a tough call on who to start in the middle…And yes, I understand that Henry is not the optimal central striker, but he is certainly our best bet out of the three in question. Then there’s Bojan, the true striker of the lot. He’s 5′7, weighs about twice as much when his shirt is wet, and is friggin 17. He’s not going to go up against a Dragutinovic or an Ayala and come away with anything other than a few bruises to both his body and his ego. And we certainly don’t need either of those to appear on the kid.

We’ve got to be smarter about these games, be more aggressive, and impose our will on the opposition. We can’t just kick the ball around and think about how great it’ll be when Messi turns on the jets, gets in the box, and either scores or is taken down for a penalty. We need to win games outright, 3-0, without a doubt, without anything but a song and dance and good old time. When was the last time we score more than once? Obviously I can tell you when: 4-0 @Murcia on January 13. 6 games since then and 4 goals to show for it. 2 goalless draws, 3 1-0 victories, and a 1-1 draw. Yippee…Two goals by Henry, both with his head, incidentally. No, not incidentally: that’s my whole freaking point about putting Henry in the middle. He does damage, he creates space, he scores goals. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why we play this splendid game. To see a little sphere go into a net. A lot. Or at least into the opponent’s net.

So it was another game of statistical annihilation and actual competition. Silly, to say the least, that a team with 70% of the possession, double the shots and double the shots on goal, and a world class talent pool, could only manage to pull off a 1-0 victory. Credit to Ricardo for his work between the sticks, but he should have had several more shots drilled through him rather than at him. There were so many chances, so many holes in Osasuna’s defense it was almost like they’re a team battling relegation rather than…oh wait they are. And yet we turned in a piddling 1-0 victory. Madrid 2-0 loss to Almeria looks decent in comparison, really. I mean, losing is worse than winning, obviously, but at least Madrid lost to a capable side.

The starting lineup was what I thought was the right move. Keeping Ronnie on the bench is a bit surprising, but there has been some serious chemistry between Bojan and Messi, so why break that up, especially if you’re unwilling to put Henry in the middle. I realize that having Eto’o would settle the question entirely, but we don’t have him and may not for a few more weeks (Cameroon - Tunisia is going to extra time as I write this), so let’s not just sleepwalk through the next few games, eh? The rest of the squad was right on. Thuram on for Puyol, keep Zambrotta on the path to recovery, and Abidal, who has been off his offensive game, is a manmountain next to the other defensive Bill Brasky: Gabi Milito. That backline is looking surefooted as all get out. Marquez is the best replacement for Toure (some would say the best starter period, but I disagree, a point I will defend in a later post about tactics). I’ve already outlined my disgust with the front line, but the midfield was just as it should be. Xavi didn’t deserve a start and probably didn’t deserve to sub on, but thank God he did, eh?

The subs brought on were interesting, though. Gio for Henry, Ronnie for Messi, and Xavi for Deco. So you remove our powerful forward, who was having a slow game and the commentators thought he was injured (so that’s a fair sub), but why would’t you bring on another midfield passer? We were cutting them to shreds in the midfield until we got tired, ran out of room due to the lack of pace that comes with getting tired, and were unable to link up directly often enough. Guddie should have been brought on for Henry, in order to let Messi and Bojan work their magic up front. I don’t mind the tactic of using Gio on the left — he’s better on the left than on the right for Barcelona because of Messi — but I do mind it if the middle of the field is sacrificed in order to get him some runs down the flanks. I know I advocate the flanks as the way to go. See above: “A team that builds along the wing more effectively should not be forced to build through the middle with a solitary striker going it alone.” But I’m not suggesting building through the middle, but rather, using the middle. Guddie does a good job of slicing the ball out wide for Messi and company to take on defenders 1v1 and then the rest of the team does a good job of getting in the middle to kill balls that squirm free or rebound or are passed, or whatever.

So I can live with the Gio for Henry substitution, but not the continued presence of Messi in the middle. That requires something else, another tactical switch that would put Bojan in the middle, despite his lack of size. Messi should live exclusively on the wing until he gets the ball. Then let the grand orchestra begin. Once Henry came off, Ronnie’s larger physical presence was a good idea, but again, what about Gudjohnsen on for Bojan? That would have solved the issues of size in the middle, if not the speed question. However, in a situation where rain is abundant and the pace is much slower because of it, the speed isn’t as important as the space taken up by the striker. I suppose that’s a pretty good argument for English-style long ball during the long “winter” months.

Anyway, Xavi on for Deco was the final straw for me and I declared the game over at 0-0. Little did I know that Gio would pull it together long enough to get Iniesta a decent shot attempt, a defender would hack at the ball, sending it towards the middle of the field, and Xavi would be there to lay down there to lay down the hammer. It’s hard to argue with success, but I would like to have seen a more successful first 88 minutes rather than being left to think about what great things could have been. We won, yes, but we won thanks to lady luck and while it’s great right now, the next time she will look the other way as our asses are handed to us by Luis Fabiano in the Sanchez Pizjuan. So let’s get some tactics right, some goals, and some real celebrating…

By the way, I didn’t think Xavi was anything special during his 8 minutes on the field. SportM gave him a 9 out of 10 for his goal, but that’s just idiotic. They gave Messi a 9 against Villarreal and I think Messi was a little more influential and skillful in that game than Xavi was in this one. Xavi did score and that’s awesome, but the goal was not of his making, so he shouldn’t get creative credit for it. I’m in love with the fact that we’re back in this league, that there are 6 points between ourselves and Madrid, that we’re goint to narrow it to at least 3 by the time the second installment of El Clasico comes around, and then we’re going to have a Messi and Eto’o happyfun rainbow romp in the Bernabeu to tie it up, then we’re going to end the season even on points with them with a better head-to-head record and we’ll take the title the way they took it from us: the little bitch way. And I’m going to celebrate that into the wee hours of the morning cause I’m a jerk like that.

And if we don’t win the league…well shit, we tried. And we didn’t spend 30million euros on Pepe doing it. Zing!





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  • JC |  February 6th, 2008 at 2:12 am

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    I don’t like the English premier league, but the one thing I do like about it, is the ability of the top 2 teams, namely Man U and Arsenal, to keep their coaches, inspite of not winning any trophies…
    And another thing is, I don’t really think it’s the coaches fault, if one of your best player, is not in form, i.e. Ronaldinho, than what can the coach do..Ronaldinho, was the reason, why we played so well..with his dip in form, the whole teams form is affected….

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  • Kevin |  February 6th, 2008 at 2:57 am

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    You’re right to a certain extent, JC, but I do think that a coach can be faulted for not having the side ready to play. We haven’t been able to move the ball and finish teams off the way that we should this season. There’s also been this odd lethargy that first manifested itself last season, and continues this year. That’s coaching. There’s also substitution patterns. Rijkaard is loath to remove a player who is stinking out the joint, such as Xavi. Never mind rolling out a lineup in El Clasico that Schuster knew exactly how to beat. For all those sins….

    Now, what do we know about Ezequiel Garay? We just grabbed him from Racing Santander. Central defender. I’m guessing it’s in anticipation of some summer moves. We also have the inside track on Modric and Drogba, if we’re so inclined. Should be an interesting summer.

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  • Bobby G |  February 6th, 2008 at 5:59 am

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    I think Garay is meant to cover for Thuram, who will almost certainly leave in the summer. I remain skeptrical about Drogba: in the past 48 hours, he’s said he’s finally happy at Chelsea, and that he’s leaving for Milan or Barca next season. He’s be a great addition — but I wouldn’t trade Eto’o for him, as some reports are suggesting.

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  • riad |  February 6th, 2008 at 6:22 am

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    Nolan; I completely agrre wioth u on the ronnie topic..How u gonna let a player prove himself if he is worth if u don’t let him play.. Allowing him to play in the last 15 mins is not enough for any player to play even for the greatest players and in their best shape..Ok, so Ronnie screwed up some, had couple beers, attended some baches, partied like a rock star for couple nights..But be honest, in his shoes wouldn’t u.. Now he is tryin to be back in shape and form,,,Allow the guy to play and get back and then u can judger fairly his performance. I mean, even Messi had a poor couple games straight after his injury

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  • Kevin |  February 6th, 2008 at 6:47 am

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    That’s what I thought, Bobby. Makes sense. Thuram is playing on guile and baling wire as it is. He’s been great, but you can see the cracks.

    No way in hell do you trade Eto’o for Drogba. I’d like ‘em both. Drogba would be great for the more workmanlike style we’re playing these days. He’s great with the long balls.

    Riad, I think that Rijkaard will play Ronaldinho more once he gets back into match shape, which is a gradual process. But it’s also up to the player by showing his full support for the club and putting out. So far, in his two post “injury” appearances, he has done that. I want, however, to see how he behaves when put into the starting lineup.

    When he is playing, he can make Barca immeasurably better because he understands ball movement, and can make passes from all angles and spots. When he is doing little tricks and dribbling into three defenders, losing the ball, falling on his butt and throwing up his hands as he sits there, he’s worthless. There was too much of that, and the partying, and the “injuries.” Nonsense. Commit to the team, and you play.

    In other news, Laporta is saying “no way” on Mourinho or the departure of Ronaldinho, which anybody with a brain knows to be unmitigated bullcrap. What he means is, “If Ronaldinho can become the player he was, we’ll keep him, and if Rijkaard gets us some silver, and not that stinkin’ Copa Del Rey, we’ll keep him, too.” :D

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  • Isaiah |  February 6th, 2008 at 8:48 am

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    Light, your post was grabbed by the spam filter, but I saved it! Hooray!

    I’ve heard nothing about Kaka being out for a long time, but I’ll admit that I don’t follow Seria A all that often. According to Gazzetta dello Sport, Kaka is “Indisponibili” and I think that means unavailable. I have to assume it’s a knee injury? I do remember something about how he was going to miss the Brazil friendly…

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  • ballbeav |  February 6th, 2008 at 10:22 am

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    BTW, ’twas Xavi that made that cross-field pass to Giovani, which the latter did beautifully to control…Xavi then crept up to be in position, and sho nuff, the ball fell to him. Xavi was the bookends on that goal.

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  • Kevin |  February 6th, 2008 at 12:02 pm

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    Yep, knee injury for Kaka. He’s been playing with pain for a long time, and I guess it’s finally too much. That, atop Pato going down for a couple weeks with a sprained ankle.

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  • Ciaran |  February 6th, 2008 at 3:07 pm

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    I am the only one that cant see what Henry will bring to the team once Etoo is fully fit? Sorry to ask a hard question because I like Henry and was happy when he signed (while thinking a season too late). He is good enough to play outwide but is afraid to go wandering like Messi does. He has complained about playing out wide but isnt a match for Etoo through the center. Now I dont mind having Henry as a backup to Etoo but is he really a substitute?
    He has the physical size to play through the center, and has pace to burn out wide but is too predictable. Not that its a bad thing that he constantly hits it past the defender and tries to play it in low to striker… but there isnt a striker there if Etoo isnt there.
    The question then is that if Ronnie is sold do we count on Henry and Giovani to cover the left side or get a replacement and leave Henry on the bench? I dont think Laporta was thinking long term when he signed Henry. He tried so hard the previous season that I think it was a matter of pride

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  • Kevin |  February 6th, 2008 at 4:24 pm

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    I can see Henry and Eto’o working together as dual strikers, bookended by Ronaldinho and Messi. Dos Santos and Krkic come off the bench to give energy or whatever is needed. Henry’s strength is working off other players. At present, there really isn’t anyone to work off, because in the Barca system, the player makes moves, makes the pass and the striker is pretty much on his own. At Arsenal, there were other players to take the shot if everything collapsed on Henry. But right now, Henry gets the ball, and three defenders collapse on him. He makes the good pass much of the time, but it isn’t to a striker type. That’s why he’ll be so good with Eto’o, I think, particularly with Ronaldinho and Messi up front with them, raising their own brand of havoc.

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  • riad |  February 6th, 2008 at 11:28 pm

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    Kevin; I fully agree with your comment on Ronaldino behavior when giving his dribbling skills a try surrounded by 3 defenders and then he falls down with; standing up with a stupid face as he is acting shocked for being stopped without getting a foul. But then again we have to feel the humilation he is passing through, wanting to prove himself within only 15 mins and hence such acts are gonna become familiar.
    Now, I’d like to raise the topic of predectable football with Barca under Rikaard;
    Marquez: Just get the ball; step to gicantic steps and shoot a long pass to whoever is on the left wing; Rikkard says
    Milito: Get the ball and pass a short pass to Iniesta
    Abidal: Forget about your defence post and start playin on the left wing and then kill the attacking try by givin it straight to the defenders through a ” is it a pass or a volley, who knows”
    As for Puyol: I need you to keep running back and forth; and keep running, sweep the whole wing; pick up stuff off the floor while u at it and just give the ball to messi even if he is surrounded by the whole oppennent team
    I mean; come on Rikaard; are u tryin to prove somthing
    are u sayin out loud ” I am predictable and I will still win”
    Let’s just say I hope so and if u do then all praise to u and u are the man behind the man behind the man
    Dos santos; guys…what the hell is he doin playin
    I don’t care if he was a key to winnin last game, but hell no
    he doen not belong on the pitch’ not yet anyways
    I guess all i am tryin to say is : Rikaard; u are so predictable but u keep winnin championships and I truly believe u are getting at least 2 belts this season

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  • Jenny |  February 7th, 2008 at 12:06 am

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    Kevin, do you suggest that Ronnie play wideout on the left, Messi wideout on the right, and Henry and Eto’o tandem up the middle? Would this be a 4-2-4, a 4-2-2-2, a 3-3-2-2, or a 3-3-4 ? I’m intrigued, just having a hard time visualizing. Who plays behind them? Ineista, YaYa, and Xavi? This might work in a 3-3-2-2 or 3-3-4, but does it leave the mighty Barca defense vulnerable? If its a case of a 4-4-2, do you play Ineista, Yaya, or Deco as the attacking mid and Xavi, YaYa, or Marquez as the defensive mid? Obviously you would play Zambrotta, Puyol, Milito, and Abidal across a 4-man back. I’d love to hear more.

    Did anyone watch the Spain v. France match? I’ve be busy with work all day and haven’t heard anything. I TiVoed the U.S./Mexico friendly and I’m gonna watch it right now.

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  • Kevin |  February 7th, 2008 at 9:18 am

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    I don’t think Spain/France was televised, and wasn’t near an outlet for the TVU Player. Not even TV5 (French language) carried it which is odd, because they usually carry all the national team matches.

    Jenny, that is exactly what I’m thinking: Ronnie wide left, Messi wide right, Henry and Eto’o charging the middle. Iniesta, Yaya behind them, with a back line of Zambrotta, Puyol, Milito and Abidal.

    Abidal has the pace to move up and down, as does Zambrotta. Puyol and Milito are the rocks in the middle. It does leave a bit of a hole in the midfield, but given the skills of Yaya and Iniesta, and the fact that we can pass the ball out of the back, I think that hole in the middle isn’t necessarily a bad thing, since teams flood the midfield to play us these days, anyhow.

    I think the back line would be fine. We enjoy most of the possession in most matches anyhow. The only complexity is that it puts a bit of pressure on Henry and Eto’o to play back. Messi already does, and it just ain’t gonna happen with Ronaldinho.

    It also becomes much more a movement-based attack. Ronaldinho and Henry will probably find themselves swapping spots from time to time, which happens anyhow with other players. Pass and move means that people aren’t always going to end up where they started. It’s thinking a bit like the Dutch Clockwork Orange attack. Lots of ball and player movement.

    I think one of our strengths is that we have players that aren’t necessarily nailed to the position that they play. Milito and Yaya are probably the players most limited in their positional versatility.

    But Messi, Henry, Eto’o and Ronaldinho can all play anywhere on the front line. The mids are pretty migratory, as is Puyol. Abidal can also move. I say take advantage of that with my 4-2-4. Crazy? I dunno. But it sure would be fun to watch, and I bet it wouldn’t leak goals. Yaya shuts down all those attacks that come up the middle, as do Abidal and Zambrotta on the wings, funnelling them toward Puyol and Milito.

    Finally, I’ll be curious to hear what folks thought of the U.S./Mexico match. I thought the U.S. was kinda thuggish (or “physical,” dependent upon one’s perspective). And Brazil looked like us against Ireland: very pretty, lots of possession, not a lot of goals.

    Today: African Cup coverage, courtesy of TV5. :D

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  • Kevin |  February 7th, 2008 at 9:25 am

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    And in other news, Rijkaard the politician sez that Ronaldinho is still the No. 1 player on the team, that Messi is still too young to have that role.

    Somebody forgot to tell Messi and the rest of the world, I dare say.

    Other news has Spanish sporting rags saying that we’ve already rejected Drogba, which I think is a mistake. I know that Henry, Eto’o and Krkic will all be playing center attack slots, but none of them are the big, strong, in-the-box striker that Drogba is.

    Of course, as we all know, everything is rumor, particularly in the Spanish press.

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  • Ry M |  February 7th, 2008 at 11:38 am

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    Kevin: I watched the US/Mexico game, i thought it was rather entertaining especially in the first half. US was playing with a lot of energy closing down on the ball at just about any point on the field. The first header into the goal that came from Donovan’s cross was unstoppable and a joy to watch.

    U.S. needs to work on settling the ball more. Too many passes bounced off our players and were given away. I also noticed second half that US started playing sloppy and couldn’t keep possession to save their lives.

    For those who watched the game did you guys notice that once Dos Santos came in he was fouled on just about every touch of the ball resulting in two yellow cards for the U.S. Then again, he came in to the game at a point when both teams where playing to make sure they don’t loose. If you remember Adu’s run down the left in the closing minutes he got taken down just like like Dos Santos was.

    Also can anybody explain to me why Dempsey’s goal wasn’t allowed? i couldn’t hear the commentary and in the replay i didn’t see anything wrong.

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  • Ry M |  February 7th, 2008 at 11:52 am

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    oh and in other news Cameroon beat Ghana 1-0, with Eto’o getting the assist. So I guess thats a little bit longer we go without Eto’o.

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  • Jenny |  February 7th, 2008 at 12:06 pm

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    Thanks for the insight Kevin. Your lineup would certainly be entertaining to watch. However, I do think it leaves the mid-field vulnerable. There’s a whole lot of open real estate between a counter attack and the 4 defenders in the back. You know 3 of the 4 attackers you named show little interest at all in dropping back. If your looking for a striker that can fill these shoes, I’d look to Bojan. He has shown the ability to be a goal to goal striker.

    What does it matter really? Rijkaard the one at helm and daring moves are simply not his style. And by the way, what’s he been smokin’? Ronnie better than Messi right now? When a monkey flies out his butt! Messi has out performed the Brazilan since last spring! That’s not to say Ronnie’s not capable of returning to form, but in the here and now…today… Messi is the go-to man, the Messiah, the mastermind, the magician, and the engine that turns the Barca attack. Any questions Frank? Good, I didn’t think so!

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  • Jenny |  February 7th, 2008 at 12:14 pm

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    Will we be watching a Cameroon-Ivory Coast Final? When is the other semi-final match? I think we can manage a little longer with out them, especially if they both make the final! Go Eto’o!!!! Go Toure!!!!

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  • Kevin |  February 7th, 2008 at 12:21 pm

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    Augggghhh! Ry M! NOW what will I watch this evening? :D

    Jenny, I definitely admit that the midfield would be vulnerable, but Henry is tracking back more and more defensively. He’s been making some very nice plays. Same with Bojan and as I said, Messi already tries to get every ball back. Iniesta is also a ball hawk.

    Almost every goal that we’ve yielded recently has come from the wing, through someone going too far upfield and being out of position. The Llorente goal during the Bilbao match was the typical goal that we’ve been giving up–fast counterattack off a long ball. If the back line stays home and people track back, that danger can be controlled, I think.

    And you’re right about Rijkaard. He’s a relic of the time when all he had to do was turn in the lineup card and turn the boys loose, which was his “job” in ‘05. He really had to start coaching in ‘06-07, and look. And even though we’re in second place, it’s even worse this year.

    I couldn’t tell why the Donovan goal was disallowed either, but I’m glad it was. :D I’m not a fan.

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  • Jenny |  February 7th, 2008 at 12:56 pm

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    Capdevila from Iniesta late in the second, I guess that’s the news from the 1-0 friendly yesterday with France. From what I gather, it sounds like Henry had several chances but could not produce and that Bojan sat the entire game, recovering from the flu. I wish it had been televised, I don’t understand that why it wasn’t.

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  • jake |  February 7th, 2008 at 8:27 pm

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    I have always wondered what a 4-2-4 would be like. We are one of the only teams in the world that could pull it off. We have a great defense, yaya, and a front line that won’t let us down (if we actually have them all together at one point during the season).

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  • fahmibustaman |  February 7th, 2008 at 11:56 pm

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    Yup… actually it just a sudden confusing to think about this. 4-2-4 looks a bit funny huh? How can we survive with only 2 midfielders especially with those who were already out of form. Its ridiculous!!. The fantastic four (Messi, Eto, Henry, Ronnie) can play at the same time but the wingers has to play as a midfielder. Messi has to withdraw and try to attract the other team’s center towards him. With the support from Zambrotta or Oleguer, their ovelapping much more needed. Ronnie has to stop playing like shit by trying to beat 1000 of defenders and acting like been pushed. Its stupid. I rather trim your anterior incisors teeth than believing in our act.

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  • Ciaran |  February 8th, 2008 at 2:15 am

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    I ont think 4-2-4 would work with the players we have at our diposal now. If Ronaldinho did more back tracking then he could play in midfield like Deco but I cant see that happening. I dont know if he is lazy or does he still think that if he waits around for the ball at the halfway line when he gets it he’ll repeat the Madrid goals from a few years ago? If Deco was playing like he was 2years ago we wouldnt even care if Ronnie was sold… Unfortunately that isnt happening either.
    When Etoo comes back after the final none of us will care because he’ll do the business.
    Bojan is out for the weekend, as is Zambrotta. Looks like Valdes, Puyol/Thuram/Milito/Abidal Deco/Marquez/Iniesta Messi/Henry/Giovani(Ronnie)

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  • Isaiah |  February 8th, 2008 at 7:28 am

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    Puyol and Deco are also injured, unfortunately…so that changes things. I’m working on my preview right now that will discuss all this in more detail.

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  • Kevin |  February 8th, 2008 at 7:31 am

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    Egypt looked very impressive in ACN coverage on TV5 yesterday. They pretty decisively spanked Cote d’Ivoire, just not convincingly enough for them to pass on the third place game, so we’ll still be getting Yaya (looked really good) and Eto’o back at the same time. Can’t see Cameroon beating Egypt in the final, though.

    I’m still digging the idea of the 4-2-4. We can with the personnel that we have. I wouldn’t be expecting Ronaldinho to track back. He never has, and never will. But as I said, Henry does, Messi does, Iniesta assuredly does, as does Eto’o. The midfield hole can be fixed with a roaming Ronaldinho on offense, and not making stupid passes. Don’t forget that with that 4-2-4, we would have ball control all day with Ronaldinho, Messi and Eto’o, all of whom have exceptional ball skills and don’t give it up. If everybody runs off the ball, there’s always an open man.

    Further, given that defenses would pack it back against that front four, probably playing a single striker, there would be plenty of time to get back with the pace of Abidal, and Yaya’s solidity in the defensive midfield.

    But as Jenny said, Rijkaard would never try anything that adventurous. Risky? You bet. People couldn’t be lazy with the ball or their movement. But they shouldn’t be, anyhow. Pass, move and make yourself available for the next pass.

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