Coming January: The Great Thierry Henry sale!

By: Kevin | September 4th, 2008

Ahhhh! Back and refreshed after a mini-vacation from technology….the Web, BlackBerries, e-mail, etc. I’d highly recommend it.

(Edit: Found a suitable image of a bummed-looking, vulnerable Henry.)

Now, here’s my idea, followed by a question. First, the idea: Sell Henry.

As fast as we can. He can go somewhere and be happy, and then the cules can find someone else to hate. It’s that simple. He can’t succeed in Barcelona by any measurable standard.

Match after match, sweat-soaked shirts and playing the whole 90 minutes isn’t enough. Neither are goals and assists, because we’re now parsing performance by “goals that matter.” That’s a rough standard to live up to. A great many players would come up very, very short. As far as sweat, Gudjohnsen sweats more than anyone when he’s in there. He runs and works like a dog. But? Valid question.

So sell Henry. He has to be miserable, knowing that he’s the goat. He’ll be closer to his daughter, and away from the demanding arms of the fans. Wrap him in cotton wool (yes, a Ray Hudson-ism) and leave him until January so that when Man City comes calling, he’ll be all rested and ready to go.

But it’s also a question of professional pride. He wants to be the player that he was at Arsenal. He can’t be, however, first off because of age-based skill diminution, right? He’s definitely lost a step. It happens. None of us are what we once were, right?

Secondly, he can’t be the player he was at Arsenal because he wasn’t a left winger at Arsenal. Why he was signed, when he’s always stank as a left winger, is beyond me. Arsene Wenger figured out pretty quickly that Henry was a crap left winger, made him a striker, and an Arsenal legend was born.

We saw all that goodness, all those goals and said “Hey, we want a piece of that party. How much? No worries. It’s go time.” He arrived with much fanfare, lots of anticipatory love and a paycheck with a whole lot of zeros.

Many asked the question, “If we already have Eto’o….” A valid point. Some said “He’ll be a plan B,” for when the match doesn’t really serve Eto’o’s skill set well. Wrong. Rijkaard wanted all the goodies on the pitch, so Henry became a reluctant left winger.

Now, expectations and his high salary couple with non-Arsenal-like production to put him in the doghouse. He’s never getting out, I think we can all agree. So. Sell him. Right quick like, and replace him with a proper left winger.

So here’s the question up for debate:

Who do you replace him with? Keep in mind that it has to be a player who will lay in (admittedly meaningless, but still….) goals and assists, draw two to three defenders whenever he gets the ball and have the pace and ball skills to help teammates excel.

Here are a few beloved contendahs (statistics from EPSN SoccerNet, by the by):

Arshavin? Pace and passing, sure. Goals AND assists? Not if his Spain/Euros display was any indication. Last year, 2 goals and 0 assists in 13 starts. Extrapolate that over a Liga season, and the numbers aren’t encouraging. But he might blossom in the Liga. After all, the Spain Euro squad was a superteam.

Silva? We already have Iniesta to drift around and disappear during matches, make runs, lovely passes and score the occasional goal. He’s cheaper than Silva, too. But why not, for the sake of argument? 8 goals and 20 assists last season. He’d probably be cheaper than Henry by a Euro or two.

Robinho? He’ll be ready to leave Man City after a few months there. “Hey, where’s the sun to warm my pouty brow?” Perhaps after counseling (as Pele recommended) he’ll be ready again for proper footy. 15 goals and 19 assists last season. Not bad. Think he’s worth his 30+ million transfer fee? Can’t see Man City selling him for less than they paid, so figure 35 million for that little bauble. That’s a little more than the 24 million we paid for Henry. Heck, we might wind up paying 35 million for Dani Alves, which makes Henry seem a bargain, right?

Names go flying about such as Di Maria, Quaresma, etc, etc. Look at the statistics, and none of them measure up. None would be cheap, either. All have big transfer fees. Quaresma will certainly be ready to run for his life after a season of catenaccio at Inter.

So that’s the question. Henry is sold. Gone. Who replaces him?





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  • Kxevin |  September 8th, 2008 at 3:13 am

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    Cojonudo, I think that what Ciaran is referring to is the attrition that will naturally follow. FWIW, I think he’s right.

    I just don’t see Henry being Barca for the rest of his playing life. Gudjohnsen will be told to definitely find a home, Marquez is already on his last legs. Can’t see him staying on with Henrique returning, and Pique and Caceres lying in wait. We’ll do the right thing by Sylvinho, but he won’t be able to keep up after this season. He’s already on fumes. Pinto will want regular playing time somewhere. I think he’s good enough.

    As for Eto’o. His relationship with the club, in my opinion, is damaged beyond repair. The smiling faces were saying “He has a new attitude, we love him now,” etc, etc. But the reality is management would have been happier to have him in the rear view mirror, and part of why he stayed was pure spite. Unless he wants to be really difficult to stay and leave on a free, next year will be the year he will have to be sold. I can’t see him being renewed.

    So many will be leaving again next summer.

    But for now….a Copa Catalunya match which will be contested with the reserves, with the next league match an interminable week away.

    On the good news front, the Bears hammered the Colts last night, something nobody was expecting. And Serena Williams did the business.

    P.S. Those without GolTV but with Fox Soccer should note that the BarcaTV presentations being carried by Fox will show the previous week’s match. It will be late, but you can see the pictures n’stuff.

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  • Kxevin |  September 8th, 2008 at 3:17 am

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    More from the Vilanova talk, regarding Mr. Henry: (hats off to Pep for putting this up from El Mundo Deportivo)

    http://fcbtransfers.blogspot.com/2008/09/vilanova-talks-3.html

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  • ursus arctos |  September 8th, 2008 at 4:02 am

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    I would find it very hard to watch Puyol in any other shirt, but there is a certain logic in thinking that Milan would be seriously interested.

    Though given that he has only turned 30 this April, I would expect them to wait at least another couple of years to make a bid . . .

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  • Kxevin |  September 8th, 2008 at 6:56 am

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    In the “Not what I did, but what I said” file, Laporta said, in an interview with Sport, that he NEVER wanted to sell Eto’o.

    http://fcbtransfers.blogspot.com/2008/09/laporta-never-wanted-to-sell-etoo.html

    When someone lies out of their ass, does it smell like simple flatulence, or some combo platter of sulfur and bullshit?

    Just asking.

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  • ursus arctos |  September 8th, 2008 at 7:31 am

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    I think it smells like a 1-0 loss to Numancia . . .

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  • andrew |  September 8th, 2008 at 9:51 am

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    is anybody else worried about the champions league this year? i know we have an “easy” group, but all things considered, wisla and numancia were meant to be easy. last year i felt like we were very lucky with who we drew as opponents.

    any predictions?

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  • Kxevin |  September 8th, 2008 at 10:10 am

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    I think that every match is going to be an adventure. I don’t think that this is the team that Guardiola wants, exactly. And there is still a lot of learning. Everybody has to learn what the new coach and system demands.

    It won’t be until around mid-season that we know the deal about this group. With the inevitable changes over the summer (and quite possibly in January), there’s going to be an unsettled period, even with the core (Valdes, Xavi, Iniesta, Puyol, etc) being intact.

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  • Cojonudo |  September 8th, 2008 at 11:00 am

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    My whole point is if Barcelona go after players like Ribery, Aguero, Benzema, etc. aren’t they essentially turning into Chelsea? Whereby it is deemed “easier” to pay exorbitant prices for already established players at other clubs instead of developing or own.

    What irks me is the “same” people who are “for” the Aguero’s, Benzema’s and Ribery’s of the world are the “same” people who whine and complain and hurl all sorts of “abuse” Laporta and Txivi’s way when youth players, (Dos Santos, Iago) leave for other clubs. I hate to break the news to everyone but you can’t have it both ways!

    If, Aguero or Ribery were to join the squad next summer, surely Pedro, Jeffren and/or Gai will not be sticking around much longer. Aguero on one wing with the position locked down and Messi on the other. In that case what’s the point of continuing to fund and develop a youth system that is becoming more like a “farm system” for other top flight clubs, (Chelsea, Arsenal, Manchester United, etc.) to come by and pluck the fruits of Barcelona’s labor?

    “We” might as well just “save” the money that is being pumped into the youth system, and spend money out of ears like Chelsea and (soon to be) Manchester City do!

    One of the “special” things about Barcelona “used” to be (past tense) the fact that they had (and possibly still do) have one of the best youth systems in the world and are always looking to promote from within first rather than go out on the market and spend on someone else.

    I already know the argument that is going to be made against Pedro, Jeffren and Gai - that they are not ready yet and who’s to say if they will ever develop into bonafied starters. To that I counter with, if these lads never get a fair chance to leave their mark, we’ll just never know how “good” they can be will we?

    Honestly speaking I cringe when I see a “starlet” leaving to another club. It pains me more than seeing a first teamer departing to be honest. Look I’m not against going after “a” star player here or there. Barcelona is a big club and lot’s of players dream of playing for the shirt. I wouldn’t be opposed to adding a Benzema. But to go on an all-out shopping spree and buy Aguero, Benzema, Ochoa, etc. is just excessive and to me at least (being a life long fan of the club since birth) it’s just not the way the club was meant to be run, nor what it “signifies”. The day this club becomes like the Chelsea’s of the world, I will “die” as a Barca fan. I might as well start following table tennis then.

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  • tomatutomate |  September 8th, 2008 at 11:33 am

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    Cojonudo I agree, and that’s why having Messi is so awesome. He, essentially, is home grown. This is another reason why I liked this summers signings, we did not buy “starlets” just solid good players. I say yey to youth teamers although this year none have come up that are worth hoping for.

    But if you don’t bring Ribery but rather someone like Guardado ( scored on Saturday on a free kick) who isn’t a star but is rather young and ambitious, one may argue that this too may hinder the development of a youth squad player. So we should just not buy for that mere reason? I say we can buy but not over spend and let the youth teamed have some competition to fight for starting role. I think everyone will benefit from that.

    Except the youth team semme to mostly produce midfielders and defenders a few strikers and wingers but rarely big target men like what Guardiola was looking for.

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  • Ciaran |  September 8th, 2008 at 11:38 am

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    Cojonudo, a little bit OTT there. Let’s look at it logically. We need a squad of 23-25 players (at least 18 of which are first teamers) for a run at both the Liga and CL. As part of those 18, one can only imagine at most half of which be brought through the youth ranks, a massive number even with a youth system like ours.
    This season we have 7 first team players (Valdes, Puyol, Pique, Xavi, Iniesta, Messi and Bojan) as part of that 18. Add to that Joquera, Victor Sanchez and Pedro to make 10 out of the squad of 25. The most in any top seeded CL squad. Figuring Pique and Bojan start on the bench, like at the weekend, we have 5/11 starters from the youth system.

    Notice, on my earlier post, not one of those 7 were the players I presumed would leave. I also included the promotions of Thiago and the re-inclusion of Henrique from Leverkusen. I also would include the addition of Gai to preseason training and possibly a promotion.
    The likes of Eto’o and Henry cannot be adequately replaced from within our youth teams. You cannot argue for the inclusion of Gai for Henry or Jeffren for Eto’o. They are not ready.

    We must remember, Messi and Bojan are the exceptions, not the rules.
    Puyol did not play 30+ matches until he was 22, and even at that was a little wreckless. Iniesta was 21 in his first 30+ season, and still doesn’t start every match at 24. Xavi was a regular at 21 also.
    Giovani was sold because he was walking out. Pique left at 17 Cesc younger but they lacked patience; without arguing the pros and cons of leaving, the ones with talent and the determination made it to where they needed to be and are better for it.
    If Iago and Giovani were too greedy to wait them I am happy to leave them walk. I think that Gai Assulin and Thiago Alcantara are the two youth players that will be eventual first teamers. I have doubts about Pedro and Jeffren unfortunately.

    The spine of the first team and the squad players should be made up of youth products but you still need many match winners to win the number of matches required to carry home titles.
    You said that you can’t have it both ways, but I believe that you can’t replace Henry and Eto’o with Pedro and Jeffren and win the Liga…

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  • Ciaran |  September 8th, 2008 at 11:56 am

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    By the way. The signings I mentioned above are personal favourite players. Football is so engrossing because each persons’ perspective is different. Some will name Aguero and Benzema. Others Adebayor and Ribery. Others still Guardado and Crespo.
    It’s all personal preferences and most of us will not get the signings we would have preferred but hope that the ones that do arrive do the business.
    Bottom line, the fact that a player is from our youth team or not does not make a gigantic amount of difference to our history if we lose. If you asked a true fan like Puyol what he would prefer, him, as a youth product, to play and Barca lose or him to be benched and Barca win I’m sure you all know his answer.

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  • andrew |  September 8th, 2008 at 1:31 pm

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    will all this talk of immenent sales in the team and replacements being brought in in january give all the players an uneasy feeling and perhaps affect their performance with them knowing that they might be out the door in a couple of months. will henry not be thinkng hat if he is out the door the what is the point on trying?

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  • jake |  September 8th, 2008 at 1:32 pm

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    Well I’m with you, Ciaran. Aguero and Benzema would be two of my top choices too.

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  • Cojonudo |  September 8th, 2008 at 2:02 pm

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    I hear you Ciaran, and if we are talking about replacing “one” player, in Eto’o with Benzema, then yes, I’m all for it. I’m referring to bringing in a boatload of players and completely restructuring the face of the club.

    I would never expect nor assume the likes of Pedro and Gai or Jeffren to step in right away as starters and contribute immediately. That would be pure folly and placing unrealistic and unfair expectations on them at this point.

    My point being that even though “we” are Barcelona, doesn’t mean that we have to feel compelled to grab up all the best talent around the world and become, dare I say, “Galacticos II”!

    I think Barcelona did it “right” this past summer. Bringing in “one” true star in Alves, and then adding some “quality” but not necessarily “all-star” players. And that is how I feel it should be. Sure, go ahead and add Benzema, but don’t become greedy and add Aguero, Diego, Ochoa, etc.

    I will repeat again, I just want to see these young lads, who have dreams and aspirations of someday gracing the pitch at Camp Nou have a fair chance and opportunity to make the club. Most of course will be deemed not good enough or not possesing enough “quality” and I can live with that. What would break my heart would be to see Gai leave because he feels he will never get his chance at the club even though, at his young age, and against the competition he has faced, he has shown he IS quality.

    A balance of international “stars” and homegrown talent is what I believe in. I could be wrong but when the time comes for Puyol and Xavi to hang up their boots that will leave only Pique and Valdes as the only Catalan born players on the club. My point being Barcelona must always do their best to ensure the promotion of youth products continues and more importantly to inject the club with Catalan born talent. That to me is what “Mes que un club” means - more than a club, but a way of life, and “independent” from the rest, much like the Catalan people themselves.

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  • andrew |  September 8th, 2008 at 4:00 pm

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    aparently pinto is the only spanish born non-catalan on the team. all the other spaniards are catalan and 10 of the current first team are youth system products

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  • ballbeav |  September 8th, 2008 at 5:00 pm

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    no, iniesta is from albacete, which is not catalonia, as far as i know. can anyone correct me on this? i dont know spanish geography.

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  • andrew |  September 8th, 2008 at 6:45 pm

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    sorry my mistake, i misread this quote on the barca website:

    “Goalkeeper Jose Manuel Pinto is the only Spanish-born player not to have come up through the academy.”

    http://www.fcbarcelona.cat/web/english/noticies/futbol/temporada08-09/09/n080908105126.html

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  • andrew |  September 8th, 2008 at 6:51 pm

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    and yeah iniesta was born in Fuentealbilla, Albacete. as far as i can see, it is only iniesta, pinto and pedro who are not catalan of all the spanish players.

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  • Cojonudo |  September 8th, 2008 at 8:29 pm

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    I forgot Victor Sanchez (Mata) from Terrassa. I don’t know if Bojan can be considered a “true” Catalan either. His mother is Catalan but his father is Serbian. And there is Jorquera but he doesn’t figure prominently on the club. My point being that Puyol, Xavi, Valdes and Pique are the most prominent Catalan born players on the club. Sergi Busquets is from Sabadell (a province of Catalonia as well.)

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  • JC |  September 9th, 2008 at 1:38 am

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    I think Genis is right about Messi playing on the left wing.
    Right now, the left wing is weak with Abidal and Henry trying their best, but they just don’t seem to click. Now on the right wing we have Messi and Dani Alves, so basically we have 2 strong guys on one side, and no one on the other, so if Messi shifts to the left, we have equilibrium.
    Secondly, if Messi plays of the left, IMO he’s forced to pass to a team mate, like the goal he set up for Crespo against Serbia I think it was during the WC. I say forced because he does not have the angle to shoot with his left and he can’t shoot with his right, so he’s going to use the leg he’s more comfortable with and hence he’s going to pass. If he’s on the left, he tries to cut and cut and shoot with his left, since he has the angle, but most of the time his shot is blocked…

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  • Isaiah |  September 9th, 2008 at 8:10 am

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    Bojan is as Catalan as he believes himself to be, to whatever level that is. He was born and raised there and if he identifies as Catalan, then he’s not merely a product of the youth academy (like Messi), but also a Catalan. Whether that means anything is up to you. To me, it means nothing, but I’m neither Catalan nor Spanish and don’t care for regionalism any more than I care for nationalism (having grown up in several different places, I have no “homeland” so to speak).

    Cojonudo wrote, “My whole point is if Barcelona go after players like Ribery, Aguero, Benzema, etc. aren’t they essentially turning into Chelsea? Whereby it is deemed “easier” to pay exorbitant prices for already established players at other clubs instead of developing or own.

    I couldn’t agree more. I can’t stand the “shop till you drop” attitude of EPL teams. We don’t need those players to come platooning in, though the fact that we can’t have them (squad size restrictions) definitely keeps us from doing so. At least I think so. Laporta would be more than willing to bankrupt the club to bring in bigger names and push his ratings up a bit…

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  • IceMel |  September 9th, 2008 at 8:47 am

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    …speaking of Messi passing, did you see Argentina qualifier? (a minute or so in.) Man, would I like to see that happen in a Blaugrana shirt!…from the left or right!

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  • JC |  September 9th, 2008 at 11:54 pm

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    But BA, what’s the harm in trying it out? We can’t buy a player till Jan 2009 anyway, so instead of waiting till then, I feel it’s time we mix and match. Out of 90 mins, try it out for 30 mins or so.
    I’ll just copy paste what I posted on the previous topic…….
    Right now, the left wing is weak with Abidal and Henry trying their best, but they just don’t seem to click. Now on the right wing we have Messi and Dani Alves, so basically we have 2 strong guys on one side, and no one on the other, so if Messi shifts to the left, we have equilibrium.
    Secondly, if Messi plays of the left, IMO he’s forced to pass to a team mate, like the goal he set up for Crespo against Serbia I think it was during the WC. I say forced because he does not have the angle to shoot with his left and he can’t shoot with his right, so he’s going to use the leg he’s more comfortable with and hence he’s going to pass. If he’s on the left, he tries to cut and cut and shoot with his left, since he has the angle, but most of the time his shot is blocked…

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  • JC |  September 9th, 2008 at 11:56 pm

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    i’m such a dodo :)

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  • boka the barca fan |  September 13th, 2008 at 3:01 am

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    this is supposed to be barca not real madrid or chelsea.i know the financial is gr8 at the club but i want to see youth players like jefferson n gai playing.we already lost cesc fabregas,martin croasas,iago,giovani dos santos becoz of this galacticos thing this is not good forza barca

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