

How to Build a Better Team (and have fun doing it!) part 2
By: Isaiah | May 22nd, 2008Before, in Part 1, we covered both Voldemort and the defense, so today it’s only fair that we cover the midfield. I’m not going to lead with some sort of gimmick (like last time) or anything, I’m just going to jump right into the cauldron.
Guardiola has not promised anything other than to play like Barcelona should play, so we’re going to assume he means to keep the defense as a 4 (if not exactly flat-back four, then certainly four defenders will be on the field at all times), but when you hit the midfield, things become fuzzy. Will he employ the tried-and-true 4-3-3 or will he go for a more controversial switch to a 4-4-2? The basic question is, will Guardiola believe in his forward line or his midfield? Some of those questions may be answered by who he gets to power his backline, especially the Dani Alves situation. But regardless, let’s look at what he currently has at his disposal.
True Midfielders:
Toure, Deco, Xavi, Iniesta
Attacking/Forward Midfielders:
Messi, Ronaldinho, Dos Santos
That’s 7 players for 3 positions, so someone has to be the odd man out. Deco and Ronaldinho seem to be headed out the door, but is this the right move? Will it solve any “locker room disputes” that may or may not really have occurred, or is Ronaldinho being shown the door merely because of Rijkaard’s presence?
Since you’re here for it, here are my thoughts on Deco and Ronaldinho: If they are above fighting for the team then by all means let them go (at a hefty price, of course), but if they are willing to take their lumps and play a rotating system in which they do their part, definitely, let’s keep them. They are both world class talents and I’d love to see them stay. Perhaps that’s sentimental of me, but I don’t think they’re done with brilliance. Perhaps they are and Barcelona wants to move on to a new era, but I don’t think so.
Add to those names Gai Assulin and Thiago Alcantara and we have ourselves a pretty good midfield, but over the course of a 60 game season, we might need some more cover. Bringing in a player like Keita would be good because it would provide much-needed backup and versatility, but it wouldn’t solve the major problem the team had this previous year: the left wing. Without Ronaldinho, the team has a massive hole in its flank, regardless of whether you play 4-3-3 or 4-4-2. There are several names being bandied about, none have truly sparked my interest. Malouda has been suggested, but he’s always been unable to earn my true admiration since joining Chelsea. During yesterday’s CL final, I watch him in particular and found everything that he did to be lacking in both creativity and drive. Perhaps just a bad day among many better days, but it was the time he needed to shine and, for my money, he was quite off-color.
If we’re going to bring in someone from outside, that person should have both the abilities necessary and the youth to make it worthwhile (Malouda is 27). That’s where Samir Nasri would have been a fantastic signing: 20 years old and capable of playing anywhere in midfield. At 15million euros, that’s a steal in my book. Even so, a true left-wing would be an even better. Names like Franck Ribery should be given serious thought, but he’s too expensive at the moment and will, no doubt, remain so. He has done well in Germany and will stay there, I’m sure, to participate in the Champions League with Bayern. So that leaves it up to Barcelona’s scouts to name a fantastic player worth getting. I’m sure they’re up to the task, but we’ll see if it comes to fruition or not.
As for the center, if Deco leaves, we’ll either replace him Ronaldinho or Iniesta and fill in any gaps in style by pushing Thiago into the mix earlier than anticipated. That may or may not work out, but it’s an interesting idea nonetheless. Ronnie finally playing the position I’ve always thought he was best at? Central attacking midfielders need to be strong, pass-oriented but capable of shooting from range, and have superb vision. Ronnie has all of those if he’s willing to subscribe to the above conditions. Perhaps he’s played on the wing too long to be a great midfielder, but I see potential there. And yeah, thanks to Kevin for suggesting that.
Kevin has also been praising João Moutinho, but I have never seen the kid play. It’d be nice if he were the new Deco and we brought him in on the cheap, but that doesn’t seem likely. I would also hate to have to put in that pesky ã every time…But again, if he’s up to snuff, bring him in for 10million euros or less and we’ll see what’s cookin’. Otherwise, no dice. Dos Santos could fit the bill on the left, but I still read him as a right-sided player with decent abilities on the left. Definitely not someone to bet the season on, but we should keep him around for his potential and his ability to come off the bench and score goals.
On to some more tactical stuff: the question of Toure becomes a very interesting one. I would personally prefer a defensive system similar to what we currently have, with Toure taking up the center of midfield and playing a holding role, with Xavi zipping around him and creating off the dribble. However, I’d also like to see Toure push up more and join the attack. Too often this year we’ve found ourselves lacking someone in the middle of the opponent’s half circle at the crucial moment. If Toure pushes up, that allows Iniesta and Xavi to drift around a little bit more for interplays with whoever is on the left and Messi on the right. My dream is to see Toure thundering in shots because the rest of the team is opening up the wings. I think this could happen if Messi is given the support he needs from a rovving fullback and Xavi, who would be pushing up the middle and creating problems for defenders trying to focus on Messi.
However, none of that is possible without play being able to sweep in from the left whenever the right is overloaded with defenders. What made Messi so dangerous before was the respect shown to Ronaldinho by defenders who had seen first hand how he could beat them. Once Ronnie was no longer beating anyone other than the dead horse that is his injury, defenders were able to focus on Messi exclusively and put one defender out on Ronaldinho knowing that nothing bad would happen if the ball ever made its way over there. If that were to happen again next year, all the Dani Alveses in the world wouldn’t save us from another “disappointing” year. If Iniesta is capable of playing on the left side, let him do it, but he’s clearly more capable and effective in the middle.
My dream lineup is still the 4-3-3, built around a solid backline. 4 solid defenders, a central midfielder such as Toure who plays a lot of defense but is able and allowed to carry the ball forward somewhat. He is flanked by two quick little mighty mites like Iniesta and Xavi, and the front line is composed of a dangerous left winger, a striker, and Messi. Sounds like a grand plan, right? But it all hinges on that left winger.
I will now sign off and let you have your say on these matters. I’ll be gone all weekend as it’s Memorial Day and I’ve got better things to do than wish the friendly in Saudi Arabia hadn’t been postponed. I’ll be back on Tuesday to start working on the striker-heavy post and perhaps we’ll have more word on who will be backing them up.
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Looking increasingly like an Alves re-run. Del Nido is saying, essentially, “He costs a lot of money and we want a lot of money. He might be overvalued by us, but we have our price, and will keep a player who doesn’t want to be here for as long as we can.”
Bet Dani Alves is looking forward to playing under those conditions….
I hear you Jim, but I don’t think we need creativity of the Ronaldinho sort if the one-touch passing game is working with the right players. Our big problem was too much dithering about with the ball and being susceptible to the counterattack.
I’m trying to look at the players we have instead of what we used to have. Without question, R10 was all genius, all the time. But when he wasn’t, he often wasn’t there. I’d rather get nice, solid passes day in and day out. We have finishers who, if they get the ball in the right spot, can work the mojo. It’s why for me, Deco was a bigger miss than Ronaldinho.
I’m with you on the Guardiola heart-to-heart. I think that will need to happen anyhow, so that whichever players are in the side understand where he’s coming from.
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I’d be excited about either Adebayor or Ibrahimovic. They’re both the proto-type big, physical central forward that would add another dimension to the team. Ibra is 6′5″, to keep Isaiah’s theme going. The downside on both is that they wear down, but they had to carry more of the scoring load at their previous clubs. At Barca, defenders can’t focus on them as much because Messi, Henry, and the mids will need attention. With good depth off the bench, I think either player could hold up over the season.
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I would speculate that a big part of the reason that those players on the outs in Barcelona haven’t been ousted is because Gaudiola still hasn’t officially signed on. If, for some reason, the Pep-Barca deal doesn’t go through, it’ll be good to have the all-stars still on hand as bait. But once a coach actually signs on, then expect the big transfers to start happening.
I know this has already been brought up on this post, but why the hell HASN’t Guardiola actually signed yet?
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Oh, and Capel’s a diving little punk.
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I have to say I’m getting sick of Del Nido. If this continues then we should switch our focus to Maicon of Inter and that will put the shits up him. Del Nido doesn’t want Alves. He justs wants a lot of money for him. If we were to make a bid for someone else maybe he would lower his price. It was stupid of Dani to sign the new contract and not ask for a reasonable buy-out clause.
If Spurs buy Diego Capel hopefully they will stop chasing Giovani.
On the Hleb situation, if we are looking to buy a left winger we should get someone who’ll score goals. You can’t be apart of a front three and not score a lot of goals. He’ll only score many 5 goals a season… Not Good Enough for me.
When we had Ronnie, Eto’o and Giuly/Messi, Ronnie would score about 10/15 Eto’o 20+ and Messi/Giuly around 10 or so. Now we’ll probably have Henry, Messi and someone I’d expect the “someone” to score more than 10 goals.
If Henry is played outwide then the central striker would definately get around the 20 mark. If Henry plays in the centre I’m not convinced that we would score as many goals, especially if that left winger is Hleb. IMOPosted from
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Kxevin, keeping the ball in the midfield and owning the mid field is beautiful and if done properly, can yield results. I dont mind the one touch game but we shouldnt discount possession ownership patience game either.
This delay on the part of Guardiola to sign makes me really anxious. God forbid, if this doesnt go through and Mourinho becomes our coach, we will become the most boring box crowding team in the continent just like Chelsea was under him( barring Juventus maybe).
Hleb wud be bad siging for the left side. He looks fatigued most of the time and is invisible in most of the game. Neither is he powerful nor a prominent goal scorer.
I hope Keita - Toure doesnt turn out to be like Henry Eto`o this year. My dream is to see them together in the starting, supporting each other, forming a solid non-porous mid field, distributing ball back and forward and taking long range shots.
Ibrahimovich, If Inter is crazy enough, would be an awesome signing. the guy scores, dribbles past defences and assists. Only problem i see with him is his inablility to raise his game on important occasions. N i knew Villareal wudnt be foolish enough to sell Caceres.
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The 4-2-4 is looking more likely as each day goes by
I love Ibra, he has amazing skills and can decide a match in an instant, but if we’re trying to create a ‘family’ atmosphere, he’s not the guy to recruit. He has an enormous ego, and is very arrogant. Maybe not to the extent of C.Ronaldo, but arrogant nonetheless.
I like Hleb, and I think he would do well in Spain. He’s complained every now and then about being kicked too much, and he wouldn’t get that in Spain, especially not at Barca (defenders have much more to worry about).
John, I think he hasn’t sign because he is still trying to get the b-team promoted, and doesn’t really want to be distracted. And he’s still contracted to them, so maybe it’s something to do with that. Apparently it’s all done, he just wants to get through the b-season first before he actually signs.
I think Del-Nido will crack. Dani Alves will surely abuse the shit out of him if he doesn’t let him come.
I think of all people, Pep can bring the best out of Ronnie, and I still love him, but I doubt it will happen. He’s too far gone with the club.
And sid, we don’t really have to worry about Mourinho. Rumour has it that he has signed for Inter.
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Mourinho has definitely signed with Inter. It’s all over but the shouting. Buzz is that Mancini might be headed to Chelsea. Can’t see that happening, but what do I know?
You’re right, Sid. That’s one reason I’m so geeked about the Keita signing. Ball control skills but, like Yaya, he has a knack for the killer pass. Now, I was pretty excited after I watched the Gamper match last season, but I’m getting pretty excited about our midfield next season.
The Alves thing, I dunno. What a crazy system where a team can force a player to stay by refusing to sell him. And people think that American sports leagues have crazy labor practices….
Jake is right. Once the B-side’s season is all done, the Guardiola thing will be finalized and dominoes will start falling. They’ve already named his successor over there.
And yes, Jake, just keep saying it….4-2-4! 4-2-4! Just kidding. I’m liking Xavi as part of that three in our traditional setup.
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Agreed with Kevin and Isaiah on the youth system - that legislation really needs fixing
Ciaran makes a good point about goal-scoring - this is why I’m so keen on David Silva, if Valencia are at all interested in selling.
God, Del Nido drives a hard bargain. I say we give up on Alves if the price goes above 28 million or so and try to keep Zambro or sign someone else.
Agreed with Jake about Hleb and Ibra.
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I wonder should we buy Diogo from Zaragoza for buttons to get rid of Oleguer and have him as cover for Alves or whoever we buy. I don’t think Carlos Diogo should be our first choice option at right back but when Alves gets a rest it would be a much more solid substitute than Oleguer. After Zaragoza getting relegated he would probably be fairly cheap.
I wonder would David Silva actually be sold by Valencia. It would be nice if Ronnie just joined Man City for millions and millions so we could just get ourselves sorted. If Eto’o finds a new home we can sign someone but there isn’t any hope for Ronnie. Unfortunately.Posted from
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I was kinda hoping Oleguer would be gone, regardless of whether or not we replaced him. We’d play better with 10 men than with him on the pitch
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the Sevilla scouts seem to have this knack of buying players with potential. why don’t we just buy the sevilla scouts? we cud probably save a lot of money.
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I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: The current transfer system is nonsense. It allows teams to hold players hostage, players to hold teams hostage, and makes for lots of unhappy people.
Ronaldinho wants to leave. We have told him it would be better if he left. But only if we get the right offer. Otherwise, he stays, even though we don’t want him.
Makes sense, right?
In the case of Alves, he wants to go. The team has said “You can go, but only if we get the right price. Otherwise, you stay here for the four remaining years of your contract.”
Del Nido is taking a risk on Alves’ professionalism. If a player doesn’t want to be in a side, he could dog it up, claim injury or do any number of things to get out of doing his job, out of spite.
Coloccini is another example of a player held hostage. Whether he comes to us or not, if a player is told they can leave, and that his buyout price is one number, then said player has a good season and the buyout number changes, who’s happy? The team? The coach? The player?
Teams can build in absurd buyout clauses to keep players from being touched, then negotiate away those clauses when it’s time for the player to go. Don’t forget that Ronaldinho’s buyout price was stratospheric, based on his perceived value to us. Now that that value is gone, 40 million takes him away.
What if someone came to us with some incredible offer for Messi, and he wants to take it? Do we? Or do we say “He’s not for sale, so leave us alone.”
(Rant over.)
In other matters, if Oleguer isn’t gone (though who would want him, it must be said), there is no justice in the world. Again, on a re-view of that Arsenal CL final, Ljungberg just owned him. He was also an innocent bystander for the Sol Campbell goal. But there was a time when he was good.
If we are to return to the level we deserve to be at, dead weight must be pruned. Players such as Oleguer can’t even be on the roster, because they are taking up a spot from a player who can actually contribute.
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Well Pinto is back, according to Sport, so we at least have one guy renewed.
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I like the Pinto thing. Now open up the keeper slot, rather than Valdes thinking he’s the man, period. What successful teams often have is someone right behind the starter, in effect saying “If you slack off, I’m going to have your job.” That keeps everyone sharp.
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signings which will ease my mind - Alves and Silva. Departures which will increase my worry - Eto`o and Dos santos.
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I’m going to agree with you, Sid, on 3/4 of your choices. Silva I can do without because I think there are several better players at his position who will cost less. And if we can’t a solid left winger and we have to get rid of Ronaldinho, then Dos Santos is capable of filling in over there if Iniesta gets tired of the job. Unless, of course, we get rid of Gio.
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Hey, what do we think of the Mancini for Abidal rumors? I mean, I like Abidal and all, but that’s a tough one. Essentially, you’re trading defense for offense. Abidal’s always good for at least one howler of a cross. Mancini, however….I don’t trust Serie A transplants. They seem to always get homesick. But he’s a pretty dynamic player on paper. Talk about Totti all you want, but as he went, so went Roma. He would certainly adapt to the Liga style, too, since Roma was a very open, flowing side.
Have to think about that one. They get a left back, we get a right winger/advanced midfielder.
I know, I know….more newspaper (Corriere Della Sport) rumors.
But I kinda like this one.(These last two courtesy of Pep’s most excellent space:)
Oh, and reports are that the two-year deal with Guardiola is done. Yay! Now let’s get to finalizing some deals, suckas!
El Mundo Deportivo says that next season’s starting XI will be: Valdes, Abidal, Caceres, Puyol, Alves, Yaya, Keita, Xavi (or Hleb), Messi, Adebayor, Iniesta (or Silva). Well, how ’bout that?
Deals are coming and going, so who the hell knows? Would be a pretty inspiring starting side, though.
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If that starting lineup becomes real, I’m quitting the team and going back to sniffing glue. F-that. I want good backups and I don’t mind buying them, but I don’t want to replace 6 of the starting 11. Or even 4. I want backups. And Dani Alves.
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The Ibra-thing seems ever more likely. His agent said that he could move to Barca.
“There are possibilities that Ibra could go to Barcelona to replace Eto’o, but the two clubs must find an agreement.”
Now all the Italian press are wondering is who Barca will swap for him. Talk of any combination of Ronnie/Deco/Eto’o/Giovani. If we could swap Deco and Eto’o it would be a fair result for both teams methinks.
Other talk in Italy is a swap of Abidal and Mancini of Roma. A bad piece of business. Mancini would be cheap and Abidal is a solid player for next season. Mancini might be a good choice of left winger for next season in football terms. I don’t know enough about his personality to comment on his effect on the dressing room. Surely can’t have as much ego as the his fellow tinkle-toed right-footed left winger, Mr RonaldoPosted from
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I can’t believe we’re even considering a hulking brute like Ibra instead of a deft and brilliant striker like Eto’o.
The problem with the Mancini-Abidal deal is that it doesn’t solve any problems and takes away Abidal. Mancini is a right back, so yeah, we’d get someone instead of Zambys, but then who instead of Abidal? If you think Sylvinho is going to be a solid starter for 60 games year, you’re crazy.
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Mancini started as a right back but now is a winger. Again as a winger he started on the right but now spends most of his time on the left as part of a three man forward line with Roma. Checkout the video below to see him in action;
http://video.aol.com/video-detail/alessandro-mancini/896957240?icid=acvsv2Posted from
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You’re right, Ciaran, he does play on the left a lot. For some reason I’d forgotten that he’d made the switch at some point and was versatile enough to make it as forward as well. Not a bad fit on the left, I will now agree, but no way do I would I part with Abidal for him. No way at all.
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No to Mancini - he’s got skill, but he goes missing far too often, doesn’t work very hard and can’t seem t handle pressure. Exactly the kind of player I would not want at Barca.
Don’t worry, Isaiah, the Ibra rumour is a non-starter. He’s staying at Inter.
I damn well hope we don’t replace half the starting 11. Ridiculous to do that to the most talented squad in the world - our problem is not talent, it’s chemistry.
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Replacing Xavi with Hleb would be crazy. Hleb sucks.
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