

Man U 1-Barca 0, a.k.a. “No silver for you!”
By: Kevin | April 29th, 2008
I’m going to be brief with this one because it’s late and my legs are tired from a long, cold ride home to watch a match that left me absolutely gutted.
Time’s up. No silver. I usually detest the idiots who do the post-game analysis for ESPN but this time, they were right. When it came to the front line, only Messi came to play. Others did their jobs but at the front, where the difference should have been made, we had nothing. No, we had less than nothing. When was the last time we scored a freakin’ goal? Schalke? I can’t even remember, is how long it’s been.
And the taste in my mouth is a bitter one.
Sorry in advance for being so irritable, and I will confess that I shed tears of rage and frustration and yes, sadness. We were so good, and ultimately so bad. Why does this game rip your heart out time and again?
This was the time, the match to take chances, roll out with a lineup that would stand things on their ears and at least take a chance. I knew the lineup in advance, but my heart still sank to see it onscreen:
Valdes, Puyol, Milito, Abidal, Zambrotta, Xavi, Yaya, Deco, Messi, Iniesta, Eto’o The Cameroonian Turd.
This isn’t because there isn’t talent aplenty out there. It’s because it’s exactly the lineup everyone expected Rijkaard to play and as usual, he doesn’t disappoint. Conservative and ineffectual time and again, it’s the lineup that we know does one thing: Doesn’t score, and has the one Keystone Kops moment at the back that results in a score for the other side. That they did what they do so well yet again shouldn’t have shocked anyone.
We started out like a house afire and I’m sure that everyone here was thinking the same thing that I was: We’re about to take care of business. But as usual this season, we flattered to deceive. One abysmal, detestable joke of a giveaway from Zambrotta, and it’s 1-0 to the bad guys. From that point on, the match was completely different, and I knew, despite all of my acknowledged optimism, that we weren’t going to win that one. Why?
Because the strike force was invisible. Deco was back to his flailing, ineffectual self. Eto’o does a lot of running around when there’s nothing to be gained by it, but does nothing when it counts. He deserves to go to Tottenham. They’ll love him there. Here’s the thing, Samu: When someone passes you the ball, use touch to control it, you jackass. And then we sub Henry for Iniesta? Henry and Eto’o are like oil and water, and Rijkaard knows that.
And so it goes. I’ll leave the commentary to the comments, but we were outplayed. Pretty possession is worthless when you don’t score goals. Fans of Ronaldinho will say had he been there, we would have scored, but I don’t think so. This match was typical of this season, really, one that I just want to be over. We should thank Man U for putting us out of our misery, to be frank about it. I love the colors, love the side and right now, I’m just sick and tired of watching us screw about with the ball and do nothing at the crucial point of attack. Pretty, empty football, like a supermodel who can’t add two plus two.
People will blame Zambrotta for the giveaway and the subsequent goal, but they shouldn’t. Without question, he was as bad as he has been all season. Anyone who claims that he took Ronaldo out of the game is insane. Ronaldo did scutwork to make sure that his side did well, and took himself out of the attacking part of the game. Zambrotta did shit.
But this is a team loss. Even the players who played their hearts out are part of the team that lost that one. The players who didn’t show up should be ashamed of themselves when they look in the mirror tomorrow morning. Because they faced a side that was beatable, and they failed to do it. Yaya, Abidal, Puyol and the glorious, divine Messi showed up. It’s hard to play four on eleven.
We have some housecleaning to do and right now, there aren’t many players I can think of whom I would like to see in the colors next season: Valdes, Puyol, Milito, Yaya, Iniesta, Messi, Krkic, Abidal (yes, Abidal). I go back and forth on Henry because of his coaching value to the youngsters but right now, I want him gone, along with everyone else not on that very short list. We have to start with the players who have a spine, with a coach who can make sure that they keep it. And I don’t mean Curly Top.
We could have won this match, moved on to the final and done the deal, then spanked the Evil Empire at the Bernabeu. But that would involve actually putting, as Jenny said, that little round thing in that big rectangular thing.
But as I said, I’m quite comprehensively disgusted right now. And with that, player ratings:
Valdes: 5. Didn’t really do much, and was a victim on the goal. No keeper alive stops that one.
Milito: 5. Pulsated with adequacy.
Puyol: 8. He put out, time and again. It was him, and only him that kept things in check in the box. Could have been worse.
Abidal: 7. Another very solid match from the Frenchman. He’s saving his bacon toward year’s end with some very impressive play.
Zambrotta: 1. He gave away the ball for the goal, and was shit the rest of the time. Put his ass in a box with Galliani’s address on it, and overnight it to Milan.
Xavi: 5. Insufferable dithering and negative balls. Yes, he did some work and yes, he won some balls. But his position is crucial to our offensive success, and he didn’t show up for that part of his game.
Deco: 2. A big, fat ball of suck. That was the Deco we all know and hate so much. He couldn’t keep possession of the ball if he was holding it in his hands.
Yaya: 8. As usual, as stalwart as Puyol on the back line. Can we just clone him, and be done with it? No summer transfer money need be spent, just medical research funds.
Messi: 9. Effort, energy, style and indomitable will. He just kept battering his head against that brick wall, with hardly any support from his mates. Where have we heard that one before?
Eto’o: 2. Worthless. Lots of running to absolutely zero avail, and I think that I have a better first touch, and I don’t even play the game. Someone please tell me we are going to sell him.
Iniesta: 4. He let Hargreaves mark him out of the game, despite being faster and a better ball handler than the man who has been battling a freakin’ knee injury all season. Unacceptable.
Substitutes
Henry: 2. Get a header, hit it right at the keeper. Nice work, jackass. He was a big, fat cipher.
Krkic: No score. He didn’t get a chance to do anything.
Gudjohsen: see above, though I will say that if Gudjohnsen is who you bring in to try to make something happen, things are worse off than we thought.
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Not suggesting Riquelme, I’m aware of our history with him. I mention him only for his performance in deadball situations with the national team. Messi draws too many free-kick situations to not have a crack on the deadball.
As for Eto’o, if he stays, Henry goes. It has to be one or the other, not both. The combination of the two is bad medicine. And I think your right, Eto’o can definitely regain his touch on the ball, for that matter so could a certain Brazilian left-winger we know.
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Okay, so keep Eto’o and build around him with Messi and a new left-wing. If we kept Henry, then the emphasis would be on building around Messi and the Barca youth. Take your pick.
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May I make a request. I have an idea for a new post.
Isaiah – top ten reasons to keep Eto’o.
Kxevin – top ten reasons to keep Henry.Two different camps, two different top ten lists. Could get pretty ugly, but not at the offside.
Anyone want to tackle a top ten list for keeping R10? JK
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Didn’t Barcelona’s dressing room problems begin with Eto’os ego? Hasn’t he been hampered with injuries for large chunks of the last two seasons? Didn’t he just make the complaint to the press that no silverware means no Eto’o? Anyone would be a fool to think Eto’o isn’t among the best, but Barcelona’s problem over the past two years was never a question of talent.
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I seem to remember some tension between Eto’o and Ronaldinho last season. This season only compounded the problem further with the addition of Henry. I heard somewhere that the cliques are rampant in the dressing room. All rumors of course, but a French camp and a Ronnie camp to name a couple. It would be interesting to know if there’s an Eto’o clique or if he stands alone.
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All we need to know about Eto’o is the way that he runs into the net and grabs the ball after a goal, and doesn’t like to celebrate with his teammates.
And I’m going to blaspheme here and suggest that rare is the Eto’o goal that requires a great striker to finish. Many (most) of them have required a good striker, not a great one. Service is key, and lord knows we have that, and then some.
I’d wager that Berbatov, or any other top striker could have scored most, if not all of the goals that Eto’o has scored. Is Eto’o a great striker? No doubt. Berbatov is better with the head, and would thrive in the more open Liga style. Heck, he scores in the closed-down Premiership with style and aplomb. Imagine what he’d do not being the only marked man?
Marquez is done, in the “old, slow and injured” club. Dos Santos is damaged in Barcelona. He might be good somewhere else, but I can’t see him being what we need from him in the blaugrana. Yes, he’s a kid, and deserves patience. I’d rather lavish it all on Krkic, who is the real deal. I don’t know if Dos Santos is, but I question his work ethic. Sometimes, a player and a team are like oil and water.
Same for R10. New manager or not, he’s done in Barcelona. Irrespective of who damaged the relationship, it’s damaged beyond repair. It’s the Superstar Cycle. He’ll be good for someone else for a couple of years, then start partying, and show up with a gut. Then that team will sell him, and the fans over there will scream. And so it goes.
I don’t think that anyone has all the answers. We all just have opinions. The summer silly season will be fascinating. If we don’t come out of this summer with two legitimate dead ball specialists, we’re insane. As Jenny said, we draw too many free kicks not to have someone who can put the ball in the net. Both Nasri and Dani Alves are quite exceptional at free kicks, I might add.
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Hooray! I have someone who supports Nasri with me. Everyone who hasn’t seen him- look up videos on youtube. Perfect Deco replacement, and is also astounding on the wing. Imagine him in la liga one can only (wet) dream.
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I still think that the same team with Riijkaard heading can bounce back into form. I dont support selling R10 either. This is knee jerk reaction and fatal. All this team needs is adding an extra dimension to it`s attack. Maybe long shots (I dont support wing crosses) and dead ball goals. Remember Manu bounced back from even lower depths with same manager and set of key players. Riijkaard can spend a decade here and implement it`s attacking philosophy to Barca
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“I repeat my love for Pep over at FCB Transfers” : thanks. Must have missed your other love letters… I was NOT playing hard to get.
On Eto’o-Berbatov. I really think that playing for Barcelona is (at this moment) the most difficult thing for a striker (and for a defender, but that’s not the issue here). With every team in the Liga and even foreign teams who are known for their attacking intentions like Lyon and Manchester playing against you holding 9,5 men behind the ball. Mentally it must be really hard to start every game knowing you’re gonna have to break a wall with the risk of getting a counter attack goal.
Eto’o has proven he can deal with that. Even with a serious injury he has 14 goals out of 15 games in the Liga (last time I checked). And I really don’t know if Berbatov could deal with that. Henry has shown that you can be great in the Premier League, but pretty crap in the Liga (people suggested he would be good to come off the bench: I agree, but he’s probably too expensive for that, plus he would block Bojan).
I think when you get more action on the wings (by getting a real left winger and a right back defender who can come over Messi if he cuts inside), the team and Eto’o will be back at their best.
But no doubt that Eto’o would be the new sensation in England if there would be a swap. My god, if you see what Torres is doing there… Eto’o is so much bigger.
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Even though it is way off topic, but I was just thinking how much better we could be if all our youth teamers had’ve stayed. We would sell some, and keep others. I mean, we lost Fabregas, Arteta, Reina, Luis Garcia, Pique and Luque (thats all I can think of). That it is a pretty freaking insane youth system, if you ask me.
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Eto’o has 21 goals in 26 games in all competitions since he returned from a bad injury. Without injury he might be challenging for the pichichi.
For much of the time since his return he has played without Messi along side him. So the defenses were able to key on him, and pep makes a great point about defenses stuffing the box against barca — they dont do that against tottenham.
I remember many goals that required great touch and finishing skills. they weren’t all tap-ins.
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Make no mistake, Eto’o is a great striker. No need to defend him. I understand that. I just don’t believe that he is right for the side any longer. He’s said essentially that if the side doesn’t get any silver, he’s leaving this summer. Fine. Then leave. If you aren’t committed, get out and good riddance to ya. Imagine Puyol saying something like that. Or Messi. Or Iniesta. Or (even) Xavi. Granted, these players are blaugrana to their cores, but we made Eto’o into a star. Tell me he would have the stats he has if he weren’t playing on a side with Messi, Ronaldinho and the like. No way. His talent is immense, but he has benefitted from the rest of the side as much as it has benefitted from him.
Whatever striker we end up with next season, whether it’s Henry, Eto’o, Berbatov or one of the other 40,000 names being bandied about, he will benefit immensely from a more balanced attack. And with better luck with injuries, we’ll be able to fold Assulin and Thiago (let’s hope they move up from the B squad) into the side with less pressure than Dos Santos and Krkic had to face.
And you’re right, Jake. Our youth system is extraordinary. It assures us not only of talent, but of home-grown and raised talent, which is usually more loyal. The problem in the past has been that the A side is so strong, the young’uns can’t see a way into the team, so they leave for places where they will be stars. It’s too bad, but we do manage to keep a lot of them. Imagine how bummed we’d be if Krkic had flown the coop.
Pep, I would argue that Henry wouldn’t be too expensive coming off the bench, if some of that value was realized on the practice pitch. Krkic has gained knowledge and style from Henry, and stands to gain even more if the Frenchman stays. You’re right. It’s a lotta dough for a second-half sub. But he loves working with young players, which I think is a huge plus.
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I would support Eto’o whatever his decision. He has been amazingly productive for Barca. He’s an emotional guy, just a few weeks ago he scolded a reporter for suggesting he leave. Give him a couple weeks after the season, and he’ll be more sensible. I like to think that Henry would help the young guns, but he hasn’t had the greatest attitude this season, either.
If there is going to be a “fresh start”, it should come from the youth squad as much as possible. I like Nasri, but why bring him in with two world class youth attacking mids waiting at Barca B? That’s how Barca lost the laundry list of talent from Jake’s post, most notably Cesc who wanted to play sooner than later. I could see Gai Assulin saying he wants to join Benayon at Liverpool or Grant at Chelsea to play now and be with other Israeli internationals. That would be a loss.
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That’s why I think we’ll see Assulin and Thiago move up into the main squad next season, Colin. I think everyone is aware that Fabregas left for that very reason.
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Hi everyone. This is going to be a long and somewhat off topic post, but perhaps you’ll bear with me? I’m not sure if any of you have read the piece by Andrew Hush at ESPNsoccernet titled “End of the road for Rijkaard.” It’s short write up describing Barcelona’s defeat in the CL and summerizing their problems of late. In it, he describes Rijkaard’s press conference after the loss and write:
“His most interesting comments addressed the difference he sees between the way English clubs play in domestic competition, compared to the approach they take in Europe. Rijkaard contrasted the end-to-end nature of the Premier League with the more pragmatic, conservative approach that has become so prevalent in the Champions League.
Coming as it did following 180 minutes of football, in which one goal was scored, Rijkaard’s opinion that the English way of playing in Europe was – not the most beautiful way of football’ was understandable. However, it was precisely because he failed to grasp this adaptability, that Rijkaard and his team were going home.
After being rebuked for so long for not being able to play the – European’ way, finally it seems that English clubs have learned how to win against continental opposition. Rather than being critical, Rijkaard would have been better served learning from what Manchester United, Chelsea and Liverpool have done this season.
Hard as it may be to believe given the squad with which he is blessed, but Rijkaard’s insistence on operating a fluid 4-3-3 formation, featuring many interchanging parts, has become a reason for the failure of the Blaugranes this season, rather than a solution to the problem.
As Sir Alex Ferguson said the day before the second leg, Barcelona only know how to play one way. By contrast, the fact that English clubs have more than one string to their bow is the reason why Moscow will play host to the Premier League’s top two on 21 May. ”
I don’t know about all of you, but that REALLY pissed me off. REALLY. To posit that Rijkaard knew no other way… that bit of nonsense about English clubs having “more than one string in their bow…” People who champion the cause of Man U’s and Chelsea’s that play boring, defensive football instead of trying to meet the other team in the middle are threats to the football that I’ve grown to love.
Here’s the link: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=530931&root=uefachampionsleague&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab1pos1&cc=5901
Your thoughts?
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Here’s the e-mail that I sent to Soccernet after I read the story:
“It’s funny, as a fan of Spanish football, and of the beautiful game, I was impressed with the second half of this piece – the analysis of Barcelona’s current campaign woes. Good for you, Andrew Hush, for giving the club a thoughtful look and identifying the missing pieces in their attack. However, the first part of the piece, where you put a jab to Rijkaard’s ribs by stating he ‘failed to grasp’ the ‘adaptability’ that the English teams displayed in the Champions league, struck me as not only biased but obtuse, as well.
I find it a bit startling, in fact, that you woud assume that Rijkaard didn’t know exactly what Manchester were about, and that there were other ways to play them. What I wonder if you (Andrew Hush) have failed to grasp is the nature of Spanish football, and more importantly, its fans. Rijkaard was indeed on thin ice going in to Old Trafford after a dissappointing year, mired in injury and in-fighting. But for the coach of a Spanish club like Barcelona to come out in a Champions League fixture and play boring, conservative tactical football for 90 minutes, as Man U did, would be as good as simultaneously handing in a resignation (to La Liga) and an application (to the Premier League). It just wouldn’t pass. Hence Capello getting the axe from Real Madrid despite earning them the title. Winning, in itself is not enough.
Say what you will about this mentality, but it seems necessary when confronted with England’s win at any cost tactics. And it’s hard to boo boo such attitude when it produces silverware, but it’s to the spectators’ detriment when such tactics are employed. Watching Rangers close down the goal for 210 minutes against Fiorentina in the UEFA Cup was perhaps a more poignent example of what happens when this mentality prevails. While watching that match, I couldn’t help but wonder how Rangers fans felt about such a display, and how much incentive they’d have to travel to yet another game where their team refused to come out and play the other (attacking) part of the game.
I’m not sure what good this e-mail will do, or whether it will even be read. But it’d be nice if someone in the Soccernet opinion camp were to hold up this end of the argument, and maybe take a poke at Sir Alex for failing to make a better fight out of what had the potential to be some of the most exciting football the world has ever seen.”
Again, sorry to clog your space with all this, but I’d be eager to hear your thoughts on this matter.
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Good stuff, John, and you’re always welcome. It isn’t “clogging up our space,” man. Then, now and always, welcome.
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The Rijkaard stuff was going to be a separate post from me, but here is as good as any other place. I think your comments are spot on, but I think that Ferguson is also right. I’ve watched quite a bit of EPL this season, and the top English teams do have more than one arrow in the quiver. I’ve watched Man U play Barca-style, open and flowing football. I’ve watched them play long-ball, feeding Rooney, playing just on the right side of being offside. I’ve also watched them play “none shall pass” defense, usually against teams they’re scared of.
Avram Grant opened up Chelsea, rather than having them play on lockdown as Mourinho used to. They still revert to lockdown, because old habits are hard to break. But they played football against Liverpool.
We were one-trick ponies this season. If we couldn’t pass the ball into the net, we didn’t (and won’t) score. I know that some Barca fans believe they’d rather the side lose playing pretty than win playing an uglier style, but I disagree. Just win, baby, as Oakland Raiders boss Al Davis said.
We played the same style during the year of the double, but we had more attacking versatility, because Ronaldinho was on form, and we could score off free kicks, as well. So same formation and tactics, different results.
We need tactical AND attacking versatility. Capello was fired after winning La Liga. The football was ugly. Kind of goofy, but it’s certainly hard to argue with Schuster’s results even if this season as the last, both teams spent too much time backing away from the championship.
Now, the real question is: Are the fans better served by silver, or by attractive football? That is, if a team wins silver (let’s say you lads won the treble during the Capello era) but plays ugly, or doesn’t win anything but plays the beautiful game. Good question.
Champions League football is pretty negative, anyhow. The Barca/Chelsea matches of recent vintage were notable exceptions, but usually, somebody is playing not to concede. I’m still not sure if fans are better served by the spectacle or the victories. I know I’d rather we were in Moscow, but I’d probably be scoffing if we effectively played for a shootout, the way that Rangers did.
Good points all, John.
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I have to say that Gai Assulin is pretty amazing. Not everyone has a full international playing for their B-team.
Thanks for bringing that up, john, and great post too. Negative football (packing the box then just clearing it away with no intention of actually wanting to do something with the ball) may be more effective, but as you said, john, it is a threat to the game. If you look at the history of the formations used by past teams, it has gotten more and more defensive. The first long-term successful formation was a 2-3-5. Now it is more likely to see it the other way round. As football evolves, so do teams desire to win over playing the game. It’s very disappointing to see, but Barca, and things like Capello’s dismissal for winning ugly, give me an ounce of hope.
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Very good points, john and Kxevin, about tactical flexibility. The modern approach has to be to have different cards up your sleeve, so you can give teams different looks. With the multi-skilled talent at Barca, there should be a range of options about how to approach the game. I personally would prefer if all those options were: 1.) Attacking and 2.) Beautiful
I agree with john that it is a little early to declare the victory of defensive, or English style, football. If anything, I think the English sides are more successful this season because they have imported more attacking talent and are spreading it out. ManU’s most recent performance excepted, of course. But the Liverpool – Arsenal and L’pool – Chelsea matches were pretty open. If anything, the downfall of Italian sides might point that all defense can’t get it done quite the way it use to.
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I don’t think the kind of flexibility we need is tactical as much as it is flexibility in the way we score goals. (although I don’t mean to say we should play the same style ever game with the same old 4-3-3). But how many goals can you remember this season that were scored with a shot from outside of the box? with the head? From a free-kick or corner? Very, very few. In fact, how many of the goals scored this year involved the ball being more than 6 inches off the ground? If Barca was able to score from long range or set pieces it would add a whole other dimension to the attack. I doubt many United fans were peeing their pants when they gave away free kicks on the edge of the box or 8 corners in the first leg because they new we couldn’t capitalize. To use a basketball analogy: When a team has good three point shooters it stretches out the defense and opens things up for the center. Same with Barca. If Barca could shoot from distance or use their heads it would open things up for the rest of the team in the middle and would help keep teams from clogging it up.
If you need proof of what this can do for a team, just watch Man U highlights. Every other goal they score is from the middle of nowhere or from a set piece. Both things that don’t have to take away from Barca’s style of football but can still add plenty of goals next year (assuming we find players that can do these things).Posted from
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FCBTransfers is full of good news today.
Gai Assulin will get his shot with the first team next season, he’ll be in the mix at that troublesome left wing spot.
Barca are looking at Van der Vaart, which would address the set piece issue and provide scoring from the midfield. The question would be who sits between VdV, Xavi, and Iniesta?
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Colin, yeah, the reports are that both Gai Assulin and Thiago Alcantara will be making the move up to the first team this coming year (and Thiago doesn’t even have his own Wikipedia page!), which would be nice, but at whose expense?
Assulin is a creative/attacking midfielder who stands at the lofty heights of 5′8″ (173cm) and is 17-years old. That sounds like a Deco replacement to me, especially if we’re going to bring in a left sided midfielder (and that necessity can’t fail to have occurred to the club). I’d rather Assulin take Guddie’s spot, personally, because I want the Icelander gone — though he strikes me as a hard-working team player, which is something that we don’t have many of…
I’ll admit that I want a ratio of 2:1 in terms of youth players being brought up to players being purchased and brought in. I don’t want those players brought to be mega signings, though, by which I mean 30 or 40 million euros for a Dani Alves when 10 million for a Garay would do. I’m probably in the minority there, though.
I liked all of our defensive signings from last year, but felt that we were shaking things up a bit much. This year seems like it’ll be an even larger shakeup and I don’t like that. We were 3/4 in our buys last summer, if you ask me and they’ll only further integrate themselves into the squad from here on out. It’s just that the 1/4 that failed (Henry) is the most visible of the four (except on this blog where we all seemed to be infatuated with Yaya Toure) and he seems to be the one immune to the “get out of town” nonsense going on at Sport and El Mundo Deportivo. A much larger post is coming your way after the Valencia preview I’ll be writing up today while watching whatever is on FSC and GolTV (and maybe even WorldSportHD). I’m excited to see other teams besides Barcelona play for the first time in several weeks.
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If Gai and Thiago are good, how come they never played for Barca this year, when we were desperate in need of players instead of those players from Barca B who were called like vasquez etc etc.
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JC, part of it is their age (Gai is 17) and part of it is which positions they play. I do not believe either can move up without someone else departing because they occupy the same positions. No doubt these players made major strides this year in their abilities, so that’s why they’re getting considered for full professional contracts.
Another thing is that if we don’t move them up now, they might, like Cesc and company, go somewhere else in order to get playing time immediately. I don’t like that system because I’d rather kids remain kids for longer at the expense of the wider footballing world, but that’s not the world we live in, unfortunately.
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something has to be done in order to keep these youngters. Cesc and co. shud never even be considered to be brought back to barca!!!
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