Comments on: Real Murcia 3-Barca 5, a.k.a. “What’s up with the glass?” http://barcelona.theoffside.com/team-news/real-murcia-3-barca-5-aka-whats-up-with-the-glass.html News from FC Barcelona and the Nou Camp Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:43:21 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Kyle http://barcelona.theoffside.com/team-news/real-murcia-3-barca-5-aka-whats-up-with-the-glass.html#comment-13555 Kyle Tue, 20 May 2008 01:51:12 +0000 http://barcelona.theoffside.com/team-news/real-murcia-3-barca-5-aka-whats-up-with-the-glass.html#comment-13555 In regards to Gio, after watching the Barca match this weekend I am officially flip-flopping from the "sell" camp to the keep/loan group. I also agree that attacking mid looks to be a much more suitable position for him compared to a winger. Extremely disappointed about the Garay situation. Not only do we pass on a great talent but the EE swoops in and picks him up for pennies on the dollar. In regards to Gio, after watching the Barca match this weekend I am officially flip-flopping from the “sell” camp to the keep/loan group. I also agree that attacking mid looks to be a much more suitable position for him compared to a winger.

Extremely disappointed about the Garay situation. Not only do we pass on a great talent but the EE swoops in and picks him up for pennies on the dollar.

]]> By: Kxevin http://barcelona.theoffside.com/team-news/real-murcia-3-barca-5-aka-whats-up-with-the-glass.html#comment-13554 Kxevin Tue, 20 May 2008 01:21:25 +0000 http://barcelona.theoffside.com/team-news/real-murcia-3-barca-5-aka-whats-up-with-the-glass.html#comment-13554 I thought you'd probably feel that way, John. I agree. I mean, Fernando Torres was a good striker in La Liga, but he's become a minor deity over in the EPL. Go figure. I thought you’d probably feel that way, John. I agree. I mean, Fernando Torres was a good striker in La Liga, but he’s become a minor deity over in the EPL. Go figure.

]]> By: john http://barcelona.theoffside.com/team-news/real-murcia-3-barca-5-aka-whats-up-with-the-glass.html#comment-13553 john Mon, 19 May 2008 23:34:03 +0000 http://barcelona.theoffside.com/team-news/real-murcia-3-barca-5-aka-whats-up-with-the-glass.html#comment-13553 And Kevin - Yeah, I know it's idiotic, but I don't want Ronaldo anywhere near the Bernabeu (and that means for OR against). Great player - GREAT player - but I don't want him messing up what Madrid has going on. Plus, I think he'll find things FAR more difficult in Spain. Spanish defenses are faster, more mobile, and in general just smarter and better than those in the Premier League. I was one of the people that felt Zambrotta took Ronaldo down a peg or two in the CL, by showing that with the proper marking, his impact can be hushed. You can't say the same about Messi. And Kevin – Yeah, I know it’s idiotic, but I don’t want Ronaldo anywhere near the Bernabeu (and that means for OR against). Great player – GREAT player – but I don’t want him messing up what Madrid has going on. Plus, I think he’ll find things FAR more difficult in Spain. Spanish defenses are faster, more mobile, and in general just smarter and better than those in the Premier League. I was one of the people that felt Zambrotta took Ronaldo down a peg or two in the CL, by showing that with the proper marking, his impact can be hushed. You can’t say the same about Messi.

]]> By: Kxevin http://barcelona.theoffside.com/team-news/real-murcia-3-barca-5-aka-whats-up-with-the-glass.html#comment-13552 Kxevin Mon, 19 May 2008 22:02:58 +0000 http://barcelona.theoffside.com/team-news/real-murcia-3-barca-5-aka-whats-up-with-the-glass.html#comment-13552 Classic, Isaiah. Classic. Time to get medieval. :D Classic, Isaiah. Classic. Time to get medieval. :D

]]> By: Isaiah http://barcelona.theoffside.com/team-news/real-murcia-3-barca-5-aka-whats-up-with-the-glass.html#comment-13551 Isaiah Mon, 19 May 2008 21:07:38 +0000 http://barcelona.theoffside.com/team-news/real-murcia-3-barca-5-aka-whats-up-with-the-glass.html#comment-13551 You ain't got no problem, Kevin. I'm on the moterfucker. Go back in there, chill them out and wait for the Wolf, who should be coming directly. You ain’t got no problem, Kevin. I’m on the moterfucker. Go back in there, chill them out and wait for the Wolf, who should be coming directly.

]]> By: Kxevin http://barcelona.theoffside.com/team-news/real-murcia-3-barca-5-aka-whats-up-with-the-glass.html#comment-13550 Kxevin Mon, 19 May 2008 20:52:46 +0000 http://barcelona.theoffside.com/team-news/real-murcia-3-barca-5-aka-whats-up-with-the-glass.html#comment-13550 Jenny, I respect that. But as I said above, I would have rated him higher had he had more of an influence when he wasn't knocking in goals. Now, those three goals and his positioning and attacking on them are the reason that I'm saying "loan," removing myself from the "sell" camp. Remember that attacking mid we've been missing? Dos Santos wouldn't be in the starting side for me, but I could certainly see sending him somewhere to make his bones, so to speak, to mature and get ready for a future starting role. I think that the one thing arguing against that is the impatience that seems to be manifesting all of the moves that are being talked about. "Win now" seems to be the mentality, probably because Laporta wants to save his hide. I like Pique too, Ciaran. Nice to see a homeboy return to the Nou Camp. Last I heard on the Garay chronology (who knows if it's true) was that he was all done, with numbers agreed to, then Rijkaard, citing his fondness for Marquez, pulled the plug. Which seems weird, because Txiki B. has so much power. Garay is going to be a great one. He should have been ours. In some good news from Txiki B (well, not for Isaiah), last summer's quartet of signings (Milito, Abidal, Henry and Yaya) isn't going anywhere. Of course, I'll believe that when it happens. My speculation now about the remaining folks: Yaya, Henry, Milito, Abidal, Puyol, Valdes, Pinto, Sylvinho, Krkic, Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Marquez. If we include the (two?) B teamers who we know are moving up, that leaves nine spots to be filled for next season. Add Pique and Dani Alves, and that's seven. Note that except for Alves, there isn't another big spender that we know of yet. And yet quite a bit of dosh will be coming in from the sales of Eto'o, Deco and Ronaldinho, not to mention Oleguer, Edmilson, Zambrotta, Gudjhonsen and the like. Then there will be the Jorquera/Pinto/Valdes question, which will be interesting. Isaiah, you have a big-ass post working about all this, right? :D Jenny, I respect that. But as I said above, I would have rated him higher had he had more of an influence when he wasn’t knocking in goals.

Now, those three goals and his positioning and attacking on them are the reason that I’m saying “loan,” removing myself from the “sell” camp. Remember that attacking mid we’ve been missing? Dos Santos wouldn’t be in the starting side for me, but I could certainly see sending him somewhere to make his bones, so to speak, to mature and get ready for a future starting role.

I think that the one thing arguing against that is the impatience that seems to be manifesting all of the moves that are being talked about. “Win now” seems to be the mentality, probably because Laporta wants to save his hide.

I like Pique too, Ciaran. Nice to see a homeboy return to the Nou Camp. Last I heard on the Garay chronology (who knows if it’s true) was that he was all done, with numbers agreed to, then Rijkaard, citing his fondness for Marquez, pulled the plug. Which seems weird, because Txiki B. has so much power. Garay is going to be a great one. He should have been ours.

In some good news from Txiki B (well, not for Isaiah), last summer’s quartet of signings (Milito, Abidal, Henry and Yaya) isn’t going anywhere. Of course, I’ll believe that when it happens.

My speculation now about the remaining folks: Yaya, Henry, Milito, Abidal, Puyol, Valdes, Pinto, Sylvinho, Krkic, Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Marquez. If we include the (two?) B teamers who we know are moving up, that leaves nine spots to be filled for next season. Add Pique and Dani Alves, and that’s seven.

Note that except for Alves, there isn’t another big spender that we know of yet. And yet quite a bit of dosh will be coming in from the sales of Eto’o, Deco and Ronaldinho, not to mention Oleguer, Edmilson, Zambrotta, Gudjhonsen and the like. Then there will be the Jorquera/Pinto/Valdes question, which will be interesting.

Isaiah, you have a big-ass post working about all this, right? :D

]]> By: Ciaran http://barcelona.theoffside.com/team-news/real-murcia-3-barca-5-aka-whats-up-with-the-glass.html#comment-13548 Ciaran Mon, 19 May 2008 20:39:47 +0000 http://barcelona.theoffside.com/team-news/real-murcia-3-barca-5-aka-whats-up-with-the-glass.html#comment-13548 Giovani was very good in that withdrawn role. His passing was spot on and he has the aggression that we will miss from Deco. I don't really remember him giving the ball away and he constantly tracks back. I love the way he drifted past players through the middle like Iniesta does. If he could be the midfielder that contributes 10+ goals a season in another year or so then well and good. Dani Alves said that he is pretty much walking away from Sevilla so that should be tied up soon (Del Nido please play nice). Gerard Pique is all done but to sign on the dotted line after the champions league final. Good signing. Strong allrounder with a good touch and he's big and powerful. (My wish) Miguel Veloso said that he probably played his last game for Sporting Lisbon. And on that subject Joao Moutinho's father said that he would love to see his son joining us to replace Deco. Huntelaar said that after Euro 2008 he'll decide his future. Ajax are only in Uefa cup next season though. And a few days later and supposedly Sevilla and Chelsea have joined us in the hunt for Palacio. Thbe whole Garay thing has me pissed off. The best up-and-coming defender in Spain and then we just delay and he goes somewhere else. Nothing is signed yet but I'm not hopeful. You have to sign early Giovani was very good in that withdrawn role. His passing was spot on and he has the aggression that we will miss from Deco. I don’t really remember him giving the ball away and he constantly tracks back. I love the way he drifted past players through the middle like Iniesta does. If he could be the midfielder that contributes 10+ goals a season in another year or so then well and good.
Dani Alves said that he is pretty much walking away from Sevilla so that should be tied up soon (Del Nido please play nice).
Gerard Pique is all done but to sign on the dotted line after the champions league final. Good signing. Strong allrounder with a good touch and he’s big and powerful.
(My wish) Miguel Veloso said that he probably played his last game for Sporting Lisbon.
And on that subject Joao Moutinho’s father said that he would love to see his son joining us to replace Deco.
Huntelaar said that after Euro 2008 he’ll decide his future. Ajax are only in Uefa cup next season though.
And a few days later and supposedly Sevilla and Chelsea have joined us in the hunt for Palacio.

Thbe whole Garay thing has me pissed off. The best up-and-coming defender in Spain and then we just delay and he goes somewhere else. Nothing is signed yet but I’m not hopeful. You have to sign early

]]> By: Jenny http://barcelona.theoffside.com/team-news/real-murcia-3-barca-5-aka-whats-up-with-the-glass.html#comment-13547 Jenny Mon, 19 May 2008 20:00:26 +0000 http://barcelona.theoffside.com/team-news/real-murcia-3-barca-5-aka-whats-up-with-the-glass.html#comment-13547 Kevin, I couldn't disagree more with your rating of Dos Santos. A 7 for an 18 year-old putting away three beautiful goals? He deserves a 9 or 10 if not for his play, then for bringing that glorious and amazing smile to Frank's face on not one, but two separate occasions. His last two goals had Curly beaming a smile when he needed it most! For that, no worse than a 9 for me. If he is to be sold this summer(I hope not!), this game certainly increased his $$ numbers. Kevin, I couldn’t disagree more with your rating of Dos Santos. A 7 for an 18 year-old putting away three beautiful goals? He deserves a 9 or 10 if not for his play, then for bringing that glorious and amazing smile to Frank’s face on not one, but two separate occasions. His last two goals had Curly beaming a smile when he needed it most! For that, no worse than a 9 for me. If he is to be sold this summer(I hope not!), this game certainly increased his $$ numbers.

]]> By: Isaiah http://barcelona.theoffside.com/team-news/real-murcia-3-barca-5-aka-whats-up-with-the-glass.html#comment-13546 Isaiah Mon, 19 May 2008 17:06:28 +0000 http://barcelona.theoffside.com/team-news/real-murcia-3-barca-5-aka-whats-up-with-the-glass.html#comment-13546 Colin, I think we're all about to start (or have been, in many cases) wasting a lot of time at work/in class thinking about what could be... I'll be doing so in the form of a post as soon as I find some free time (should be later today). Barcelona B, by the way, won their Tercera group and will have home field advantage for the two legged promotion playoff. Hopefully they make it! Colin, I think we’re all about to start (or have been, in many cases) wasting a lot of time at work/in class thinking about what could be…

I’ll be doing so in the form of a post as soon as I find some free time (should be later today).

Barcelona B, by the way, won their Tercera group and will have home field advantage for the two legged promotion playoff. Hopefully they make it!

]]> By: Colin http://barcelona.theoffside.com/team-news/real-murcia-3-barca-5-aka-whats-up-with-the-glass.html#comment-13545 Colin Mon, 19 May 2008 16:49:30 +0000 http://barcelona.theoffside.com/team-news/real-murcia-3-barca-5-aka-whats-up-with-the-glass.html#comment-13545 I think all cules feel the same as you about the Laporta - Txiki - (Marc UK?) group. There is a poll on Sport, for what it's worth, asking if you believe Laporta's explanation of the season. It's 80% no right now. Laporta would be better off just saying everyone screwed the pooch this season, but he has a firm plan in place to move forward and the wheels are turning as we speak. Good news on Pique, though. He is a threat on set pieces with his head, and he played with Gabi at Zaragoza right? Sport has similar news about Van Persie and Walcott, as well as David Silva as an option. I think we all knew about Silva, what striker hasn't been linked to Barca this news cycle? Walcott is a dream, I can't imagine Arsenal letting him go at his young age. I will waste time today day dreaming about Walcott and Messi dribbling through defenses though. I think all cules feel the same as you about the Laporta – Txiki – (Marc UK?) group. There is a poll on Sport, for what it’s worth, asking if you believe Laporta’s explanation of the season. It’s 80% no right now. Laporta would be better off just saying everyone screwed the pooch this season, but he has a firm plan in place to move forward and the wheels are turning as we speak.

Good news on Pique, though. He is a threat on set pieces with his head, and he played with Gabi at Zaragoza right?

Sport has similar news about Van Persie and Walcott, as well as David Silva as an option. I think we all knew about Silva, what striker hasn’t been linked to Barca this news cycle? Walcott is a dream, I can’t imagine Arsenal letting him go at his young age. I will waste time today day dreaming about Walcott and Messi dribbling through defenses though.

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