Samuel Eto’o and the Value of Statistics

By: Isaiah | July 28th, 2008

[Updated version] The debate over Samu rages back and forth in both Barcelona and on this blog. I can’t say with any amount of certainty who is on what side in the Junta Directiva, but it seems fairly clear that there are several Samu detractors high up in the club and they are determined to get rid of the Cameroonian striker. I won’t bore you with conspiracy theories about who wants him out or why (he walked in on Laporta and Txiki slobbering over Youtube videos of Cronaldo!), but I will gladly bore you with a statistical analysis of Eto’o’s time so far in La Ciudad Condal.

Because it seems to be the major comparison being made by all of us (especially by Kevin and me in our various posts and comments), I’m going to go ahead and do a head-to-head with Samu and Thierry Henry, to see whether or not there can’t be some final resolution concerning the value of these two assets (and at this point one must consider them as assets rather than anything else since I’m attempting to look at this from a purely mathematical/statistical perspective; later I’ll bring in the human element, don’t worry).

First, Samu:

According to Soccernet, Eto’o has played in 142 games for Barcelona since joining at the beginning of the 2004/05 season. During that time he has scored 91 goals. That is, overall, a scoring rate of 0.641 goals per game.

Let’s break it down further, though, into individual competitions.

La Liga: 109 games, 77 goals (0.706 goals per game)
Champions League: 28 games, 12 goals (0.429 goals per game)
Copa del Rey: 4 games, 2 goals (0.500 goals per game)
UEFA Super Cup: 1 game, 0 goals (you can guess the goals per game rate, right?)

Now, let’s break it down by year and by compeition, to see whether or not the injuries have slowed his strike rate or not.

League:
04/05 – 37 games, 24 goals (0.649 goals per game)
05/06 – 35 games, 26 goals (0.743 goals per game)
06/07 – 19 games, 11 goals (0.579 goals per game)
07/08 – 18 games, 16 goals (0.889 goals per game)

With a slight dip in 06/07, Samu’s goal scoring rate has risen steadily, despite his injuries. It would be folly, however, to assume that he’ll score a goal per game now, especially since he hasn’t had a full season in which to either prove his extraordinary worth or make his flaws truly visible. That is, however, just the league. What of the Champions League, where he is accused of failing to find the back of the net (especially against English opposition)?

CL:
04/05 – 7 games, 4 goals (0.571 goals per game)
05/06 – 11 games, 6 goals (0.545 goals per game)
06/07 – 3 games, 1 goal (0.333 goals per game)
07/08 – 7 games, 1 goal (0.143 goals per game)

Obviously there is a marked decline in Samu’s goalscoring in European competition once he began to have injury problems. It’s hard to say whether the lack of goals is purely related to the injuries and when he made his returns to the game (usually in tough situations against much stronger competition than appears in the league, such as Liverpool in the quarters or ManU in the semis) or if it’s purely based on his inability to get the better of well-formed English defenses. My guess is that it’s a combination of the two, but I’ll explain more of that later, after the next round of stats.

It’s on to Thierry Henry, then. What has he contributed over the last several seasons? I’m going to start with the same amount of time (03/04 to 06/07) in order to avoid any of the debates about whether or not switching teams and positions could have hindered or helped Henry’s stats. Over the course of those 4 years, “TH14″ played in a total of 165 games for Arsenal, scoring 114 goals (0.691 goals per game).

Just like with Eto’o, let’s break it down competition-by-competition:

EPL: 118 games, 92 goals (0.780 goals per game)
Champions League: 36 games, 16 goals (0.444 goals per game)
FA Cup: 7 games, 4 goals (0.571 goals per game)
FA Community Shield: 3 games, 1 goal (0.333 goals per game)
Carling Cup: 1 game, 1 goal (1.00 goals per game, duh)

Now a year-by-year comparison with the league and CL:

EPL:
03/04 – 37 games, 30 goals (0.811 goals per game)
04/05 – 32 games, 25 goals (0.781 goals per game)
05/06 – 32 games, 27 goals (0.844 goals per game)
06/07 – 17 games, 10 goals (0.588 goals per game)

Obviously Henry was a major force in the EPL for several years, his powers waning a bit with his injuries during his final year there, but it’s hard to argue with the sustained 0.780+ goals per game rate, isn’t it? Only one of Samu’s years exceeded that rate (07/08 at 0.889 goals per game, which actually exceeds anything rate Henry ever scored at in the Prem) while only one of Henry’s failed to do so (06/07 at 0.588 goals per game).

CL:
03/04 – 10 games, 5 goals (0.500 goals per game)
04/05 – 8 games, 5 goals (0.625 goals per game)
05/06 – 11 games, 5 goals (0.455 goals per game)
06/07 – 7 games, 1 goal (0.143 goals per game)

There is, just like with Eto’o, a drop in performance in the CL in the last year of Henry’s time with Arsenal. It is, in fact, the exact performance rate. Let’s compare overall strike rates between Eto’o and Henry:

League: Henry holds the edge here at 0.780 compared to 0.706 (if you were to adjust Eto’o’s appearance numbers upwards to meet those of Henry — that is, 118 appearances in 4 years — you would get 118 games, 83 goals. That makes the difference 9 goals over a 4 year period when adjusted. The actual difference is 77 for Eto’o, 92 for Henry.

CL: Henry again holds an advantage in European competition, but not by any convincing margin (0.444 compared to 0.429). Again, if you adjust the number of games Eto’o appeared in from 28 to 36, you get 15 goals. That’s a difference of 1 goal between himself and Henry. The actual difference was 4 goals (12 in 28 for Eto’o compared to 16 in 36 for Henry).

In domestic tournaments (eg Copa del Rey), both tend towards a goal every two games (0.500 goals per game) and so are a virtual statistical tie. If Eto’o’s appearances are upped to meet Henry’s (that is, 11 games instead of 4) his numbers are 11 games, 5.5 goals rather than Henry’s 11 games, 6 goals. If you discount the Carling Cup — a 2-1 victory over Wigan that still resulted in Arsenal being bounced on away goals — there’s an exact statistical tie at 10 games, 5 goals each.

[Updated paragraph] Just one more bit of statistical fun: Over his whole Arsenal career, Thierry Henry appeared in 369 games, scoring 230 goals. That’s 0.623 goals per game. Eto’o’s Barcelona career has garnered him the aforementioned 0.706 goals per game 0.641 goals per game. The above analysis does not take into account the first few years of Henry’s Arsenal career because they do not accurately reflect the current form Henry is capable of. Eto’o is a distinct disadvantage in these stats because Henry had his 3 of his 4 best years at Arsenal precisely in the 4 years analyzed. Only the 03/04 season was better for goals per game analysis from Henry’s point-of-view (25 games, 24 games is a maddening 0.960 goals per game!).

Overall, Henry’s performances in the EPL suggest he is capable of being a better striker than Eto’o. However, Eto’o has proven his worth time and again as a striker against Spanish teams. It might be a smart play on Pep’s part to split time between his slightly ailing strikers and give Henry the bulk of the starts against English teams in the CL while smaller, slower teams will be cut to shreds by Eto’o. The fluidity of the Spanish game (and I would argue the brilliance of it) plays more into Eto’o’s hands than Henry’s, but there is true talent on both sides of this question. Thus, we must never forget that both are consummate professionals in how they approach fitness and the game itself.

Henry’s gift is his ability to integrate with the rest of the squad, while Eto’o’s mouth often gets him into trouble. If one ignores Eto’o, he becomes a fantastic striker, bent on proving you a fool for forgetting about him, but if you allow him to get under your skin, like so many defenders, he will punish your backlash severely. Henry doesn’t seem to have that personality, which is nice from a club’s perspective, but Eto’o is a crowd favorite for a reason: he has on-the-field charisma that, when properly corralled, excites the whole team. Eto’o is never afraid of playing second fiddle so long as he gets the proper credit when the ball goes into the net off his foot, but Henry may not be capable of watching Messi take the reins and drive the team upwards in both the domestic and continental competitions.

Still, I would like to see both of them stay because if, as many have said, Eto’o will bring us La Liga and Henry will bring us the CL, it’s well worth their wages and the lack of a transfer fee in the future to bring back silverware. If we want Benzema, we should get Benzema and put him through the paces, growing him into a striker that will take over for Eto’o when/if he moves on after his contract is done, but giving up Eto’o for an unproven commodity from an inferior league makes very little sense.

Giving up Henry makes even less sense so soon after spending a large chunk of cash on him and then not letting him play his preferred position. There are enough games and enough injuries to give him a solid 20-30 starts as well as keeping Eto’o happy and Bojan in a solid rotation. Were I to wager on it, I’d say Eto’o gets a grand total of 23 goals, Henry 20, and Bojan 15. With Messi, Iniesta, Keita, Toure, and Hleb all contributing (especially San Leo), that makes for a pretty serious number of goals.

Outro: Henry has another year of stats that we shouldn’t forget to include. His performances of the 06/07 season shouldn’t be used to judge his career as a whole even if Barcelona’s stats are a bit skewed by his new position and new team. Adapting to a new role in a new home is never easy, especially not with the pressure Henry has been under, but let’s consider, for a moment, the stats available from 07/08:

League: 30 games, 12 goals (0.400 goals per game)
Champions League: 10 games, 3 goals (0.300 goals per game)
Copa del Rey: 2 games, 1 goal (0.500 goals per game)

I will not attempt to put a value on Henry’s performances as a winger compared to Eto’o’s as a forward, but it is good to note that Henry has the ability to score goals both in domestic and European competition despite Rijkaard’s tendency to put him on the wing. It is precisely for this reason (his positioning) that I have not included his stats from his year at Barça in the above comparison. It would not be fair at all to Henry nor would it further validate Eto’o’s continued stay at the club to compare the two. However, it must be noted that Eto’o floundered more than Henry when he was placed on the wings, which happened several times during the season (especially in the CL). Regardless of what that tidbit means, the comparison above between two strikers is the important part that must truly be considered.





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  • Charlie |  July 29th, 2008 at 11:27 am

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    Ahh ic, my Fox Soccer Channel must be different because there is no coverage of Barca TV on mine. I’m assuming the Canadian version of Fox Soccer Channel is different then the American version.

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  • Charlie |  July 29th, 2008 at 11:30 am

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    This just in: apparently Eto’o will miss tomorow’s game after taking a knock to the head at training. Victor Sanchez had to get some stitches to take care of his side of the knock.

    http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=796564

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  • Kxevin |  July 29th, 2008 at 12:09 pm

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    Isaiah is right. Fox Soccer Channel is the one showing those matches, in the U.S. market only, I guess. On now is on ‘04 match v Mallorca, where one Cameroonian striker isn’t doing very much at present. And it’s hard to tell Ronaldinho and Edgar Davids apart from an aerial view. :D

    When you see how fond Guardiola was of feeding Kluivert, it’s easy to understand his fondness for a big, strong “9.”

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  • IceMel |  July 29th, 2008 at 12:18 pm

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    Thanks for the clarification Isaiah.
    Alas no GolTV available here yet.
    So if anyone springs for the BarcaTV package let me know how you like it.

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  • ajani |  July 29th, 2008 at 1:18 pm

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    anyone know where to watch the barca v fiorentina match today, if possible?

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  • jake |  July 29th, 2008 at 1:48 pm

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    Well Ezquerro has signed for Osasuna, but I don’t think we have to be too worried about him coming back to haunt us. And Yaya says that Drogba wants us, but Eto’o is just as good.

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  • Ciaran |  July 29th, 2008 at 2:45 pm

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    The media just won’t give up on the Trezeguet and Silva rumours. Trezeguet is a step down from what we already have and Silva is a class act but no better than Iniesta.
    1 thing that I will say about Silva though, if he doesn’t work out for €20million, we could sell him for a relatively high fee to the Premiership in a season or two. Trezeguet is big money for a guaranteed no resell value striker who is not as good as Eto’o and Henry anyway.
    Whilst Silva’s class is not in question, his contribution is the main point of contention. If we didn’t sign Hleb I would be all for Silva. If he would be an exact replacement for Deco, as an attacking midfielder, creating chances and linking play whilst moving freely between the midfield and the forward line.
    As a left winger he does one of two things consistently, one is drift inwards (a high traffic area for Barca with Iniesta, Xavi and Messi). Or… he stays out wide and disappears. He does not have the change of speed to beat defenders for pace or have the quick feet to wrong foot them.

    On the other hand, Arshavin’s situation is the exact opposite. His quality at the highest level has been questioned by some people but most his contribution is definitely something that we all want.
    In terms of quality, my arguement is that in a team where you are the only star you are afforded very little space and have to be even better still in order to succeed. At Zenit, everyone knew he was the only threat but he still won the double for them. The same thing happened in the Euros. Against Spain, Russia had little-to-no possession and thus could not influence the game to a great degree. With Barca that will never happen. He will get the ball often and when he does he will have more room to work in and more off the ball runs from our midfielders.
    When it comes to his contribution to the team he fits the job description even if he doesn’t have Silva’s CV. He is very dangerous in 1-on-1’s. Can get to the byline and pick out a good cross. He assists a lot of goals and scores quite a few to go with it. He can play both wings and normally plays in a 4-3-3 anyway.

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  • BA |  July 29th, 2008 at 3:02 pm

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    as usual, i totally agree with everything Ciaran just said. we don’t need a central striker if Samuel doesn’t leave, and we shouldn’t push him out to make room for someone older and slower, i don’t care if the Incredible Hulk expresses interest. Silva’s role seems redundant, and Arshavin’s threat alone is worth the money. he should be our #1 signing target, and it’s not like that would be hard if we put little Txiki on the case, given the player’s enthusiasm for the club.

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  • IceMel |  July 29th, 2008 at 3:45 pm

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    Ajani,
    http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/
    Wednesday.

    Ciaran,
    Good points. Arshavin’s not very tall…how are his aerial skills?

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  • ajani |  July 29th, 2008 at 4:06 pm

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    thanks isaiah. your/kxevin’s blog rocks by the way.

    and fyi, my 2 cents? letting eto’o go might be the #1 regret of this season. arshavin was a sumemr wunderkid, and yes, he is talented, but why not let him prove himself worthy or unworthy at someone ELSE’S club before showing too much interest?

    trezeguet? are you kidding? and david silva? nahh. we don’t need him.

    anyway. thank you isaiah.

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  • Isaiah |  July 29th, 2008 at 4:37 pm

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    You’re welcome, ajani, but IceMel gets the credit for providing that link.

    Obviously I’m in the Keep Eto’o camp, but now I’m solidly in the Keep Henry camp, too, thanks to the wonders of statistics.

    As for Arshavin/Silva, I think this calls for another statistical post, which I’ll attempt to spit out tomorrow, along with the final decision on Messi’s Olympic aspirations. One thing to keep in mind is age: Arshavin is 27 while Silva is 22. Just something to think about.

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  • Mat |  July 29th, 2008 at 5:11 pm

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    I am also in the Keep Eto’o camp…one thing I wanted to point out this morning (but forgot) is that for all these stats Henry was the main man at Arsenal while Eto’o, for all his importance at the Camp Nou, was sharing the goal-scoring with Messi and Ronaldinho..Henry was not sharing it with anyone..he was the go-to-guy for all those years of the stats..

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  • Isaiah |  July 29th, 2008 at 5:46 pm

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    Great point, Mat. I considered discussing that in my post, but came up with this answer: scoring is scoring. While Eto’o may not have been the focus of Barcelona’s offense, teams really do act in the path of least resistance mode at all times. If a striker can score, someone will pass him the ball, regardless of “focus” or tactical direction.

    Still, it’s a solid point that Henry was the only true option most of the time, while Messi, Ronaldinho, Deco, and Larsson were capable of stepping up at crucial moments to provide serious goalscoring power. Not that I’m saying Arsenal didn’t have their secondary scorers — no way would I say that — but Barcelona had more and a system designed to specifically integrate their abilities rather than defeat a specific defensive scheme (the Great Wall of England style). Barcelona has always forced teams to adapt to their style rather than adapting to the style of other teams.

    Henry, I think, will do wonders as a central striker in La Liga, but only as a second option. It’s a tough thing to deal with him coming off the bench, but it’s also going to be tough for his ego to play second fiddle to Eto’o, as proven as he may be. But it could be amazing if Henry gets properly integrated into the squad by playing 20 minutes in league games and 90 minutes when Eto’o gets rest days, thus preparing Henry to start in the CL without any loss in form.

    Only time will tell, of course.

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  • BA |  July 29th, 2008 at 5:51 pm

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    i posted this over at Pep’s Transfer blog as well, some brief Silva/Arshavin stats:

    Silva : 9 goals in 70 games (3 in 19 for Spain)
    Arshavin : 47 goals in 217 games (13 in 37 for Russia)

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  • Kxevin |  July 29th, 2008 at 8:20 pm

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    Um, Eto’o was the man in Mallorca, and netted 59 goals in 164 appearances, which is (unless I do math like a journalist) .359 goals per game.

    I’ll grant that Eto’o was developing into the talent that he has become. I would also argue that Ronaldinho/Deco and later Messi made it EASIER for Eto’o to score goals because of the space and defenders the aforementioned players demanded. Hence Isaiah’s “path of least resistance.” Eto’o also picked up many goals from rebounds and the like, created by the Barca Power Trio.

    There’s an up and down side to being the man. The up side is you are the man, and get the feeds. The down side is that defenses are keyed up to stop you and only you, which is why Henry worked so well with the likes of Bergkamp and Ljungberg.

    I don’t know how this striker thing is all going to end up, but my preference for Henry over Eto’o is based in one simple thing: we don’t know how Henry can do as the day-in, day-out striker. Let’s find out. If he sucks, get him out and find another answer.

    Nor do I think the ego of either player, not to mention team continuity, would benefit from a platooning system. Name one player, and stick to it until injury or ineffectiveness make it necessary to change that decision.

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  • Kxevin |  July 29th, 2008 at 8:26 pm

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    Also, Henry was sharing the load with Adebayor for his last season at Arsenal, and before that, Pires/Bergkamp were also very real scoring options. No, they weren’t at the level of an on-form Deco/Ronaldinho/Messi, but I wouldn’t be so quick to dismiss Henry’s stats as a simple virtue of being the one and only.

    His striker role was very different from that of Drogba, who is indeed the one and only. Every pass goes to him, every long ball goes his way. Anybody who has watched Arsenal over the years knows that it’s pretty difficult to imagine a team with a style more like ours.

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  • Kxevin |  July 30th, 2008 at 5:47 am

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    Messi is off to the Olympics, thanks to the FIFA ruling that all under-23s must report if called. He says that he would rejoin the team if they worked something out, but not happily, it sounds like. What a mess.

    This was the ruling of a single judge, however. Laporta has said that we will seek a definitive ruling from the court of appeal.

    In other news, Arshavin to Spurs? Rumors are that Tottenham have agreed on a price with Zenit, now that the number has come down from 25 to 17 million, and Arshavin is saying he’d love to go to Spurs, of course, because he wants to be anywhere other than Zenit.

    Of course, we’ve all heard these rumors before. We had purportedly agreed on a price with Zenit, and we all saw where that deal went.

    Meanwhile, apparently Eto’o is still pissed about being told that he was surplus to requirements, according to his agent. He felt the club should have spoken to him first, rather than his having to read about it in the media.

    Whatever. And then there’s this Laporta quote posted by Jake in the preceding thread, which I’m putting here so that it won’t get lost:

    “The behaviour of Samuel has been good and I’m very happy for that. Apart from the technical decisions that could be taken, I’m satisfied with the behaviour of Eto’o. The rest is the responsability of Txiki. Every team would like to have a motivated Eto’o in the squad. But some things happened so we have to make a serious analysis. We thought that selling some key players was the appropriate thing to do but in this world of football nothing is unchangeable. In the case of Eto’o, I don’t think his situation is irreversible. The technical staff will have to decide and the football arguments should prevail. The mental and physical recovery of the player will be decisive in the final decision.”

    I think the real reason this is coming up at all is that nobody, and I mean NOBODY is making a serious bid for Eto’o. Who knows why? High salary? Uncertainty about being able to cut it in other leagues? Attitude? Sudden fragility? All of the above? Dunno. I do know that we canNOT allow Eto’o his wish, which is to play out his contract then leave on free transfer. I’m sure that even the most devoted Eto’o fans understand what a fiscal nightmare that would be for the side. Letting Ezquerro leave on a free is one thing. Eto’o leaving on a free is something else altogether.

    Most of what this shows is that if a player wants to scuttle transfer plans, he can do so. Gudjohnsen and Eto’o have in effect dug their heels in, trying to grab a place in the squad by in effect refusing all offers in the case of the Icelandinc Monument, or presenting absurd salary demands in the case of the Cameroonian. I don’t understand it, because being difficult isn’t going to put a player in any coach’s good graces, particularly one who was planning a life without said player(s).

    Yaya sez that Drogba wants to come to Barcelona, which might be true, but no overtures of any significance have been made in that direction, unless you count rumormongering press folks. Of course, Yaya also wants to keep Eto’o, which goes to show you what players know about team management.

    And Ezquerro is officially signed with Osasuna. Best of luck to him.

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  • BA |  July 30th, 2008 at 7:41 am

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    good luck Santi!

    we would be idiots if we didn’t sign Arshavin now. Silva’s agent today said that he didn’t want to leave Valencia, nor would they part with him for anything approaching a reasonable fee. Arshavin’s not just our best choice for the left: he’s our ONLY choice. our board needs to get over the whole Messi situation (they do seem to have tunnel vision, don’t they?) and work on fleshing out our still-thin roster. time is running out.

    and does anyone know if the FIFA ruling means Messi won’t be available for the game in Chicago on Sunday? i would think it does, but i’m hoping not.

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  • Kxevin |  July 30th, 2008 at 7:44 am

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    Looks like he’s out for Sunday, BA. And hey, if anyone’s going to the practice session at Toyota Park on Friday night (7 p.m.), I’ll be there, as well.

    I’m kinda bummed about not seeing Messi, but I’m totally geeked about the fact that everyone else will be there. My friend and I are dying to see Dani Alves in action, live and in person.

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  • Kxevin |  July 30th, 2008 at 8:07 am

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    Oh, and since everyone else in the free world will be sporting home kit, I plan (for those looking out for me) to wear the away kit on Friday, and the keeper’s shirt on Sunday. So there. :D

    And it looks like vacation will swing free enough where I’ll be able to do El Clasico at the Nou Camp this year. Wifey and I figure a few days in Paris, jet over to Barcelona, back to Paris for a couple of days, then home.

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  • Isaiah |  July 30th, 2008 at 8:36 am

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    Take me with you, Kevin!

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  • Mat |  July 30th, 2008 at 9:55 am

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    sounds like fun Kxevin!!,anyways I was wanting rebuke your statements since morning :D ..but had one big presentation of mine!..I don’t think you should even compare Mallorca games for Eto..of the players around him cannot be compared to that of Arsenal/Barca…secondly, even though his it would be easier for Eto’o to score when Ronnie, Messi and Larson were around, but they were all “taking” goals away from him too..(and there’s only so much you can score!!)a quick glance of goals scored by everyone in those years will tell you that…while at Arsenal..Bergkamp and more Pires were less of strikers and more of attacking mids..I am pretty sure they did not have any big striker before that to accompany him…
    I think all in all its a hard comparison to make and both are awesome strikers who we need

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  • Mat |  July 30th, 2008 at 9:56 am

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    before Adebayor last year I meant..

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  • Kxevin |  July 30th, 2008 at 10:17 am

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    I hear ya, Mat. Looks like Guardiola had a meeting with Txiki and the boys to reiterate his need to get that “9,” and to have Eto’o gone. Wow.

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  • Kxevin |  July 30th, 2008 at 10:19 am

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    And Isaiah, we’ll see if I can actually get tix. Last time I tried it was crazy. Tix go on sale for socis Sept. 3 or something like that, and the poor FC Barcelona ticketing site can’t take the stress. It crashed on me last time, and when I got back on, it was all sold out.

    If I can’t get Clasico tix, we’ll just rent a place for a week in Paris, and do a day trip to Barcelona.

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