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	<title>Comments on: Samuel Eto&#8217;o and the Value of Statistics</title>
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		<title>By: Kxevin</title>
		<link>http://barcelona.theoffside.com/team-news/samuel-etoo-and-the-value-of-statistics.html#comment-15053</link>
		<dc:creator>Kxevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Isaiah, we&#039;ll see if I can actually get tix. Last time I tried it was crazy. Tix go on sale for socis Sept. 3 or something like that, and the poor FC Barcelona ticketing site can&#039;t take the stress. It crashed on me last time, and when I got back on, it was all sold out.

If I can&#039;t get Clasico tix, we&#039;ll just rent a place for a week in Paris, and do a day trip to Barcelona.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Isaiah, we&#8217;ll see if I can actually get tix. Last time I tried it was crazy. Tix go on sale for socis Sept. 3 or something like that, and the poor FC Barcelona ticketing site can&#8217;t take the stress. It crashed on me last time, and when I got back on, it was all sold out.</p>
<p>If I can&#8217;t get Clasico tix, we&#8217;ll just rent a place for a week in Paris, and do a day trip to Barcelona.</p>
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		<title>By: Kxevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kxevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear ya, Mat. Looks like Guardiola had a meeting with Txiki and the boys to reiterate his need to get that &quot;9,&quot; and to have Eto&#039;o gone. Wow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear ya, Mat. Looks like Guardiola had a meeting with Txiki and the boys to reiterate his need to get that &#8220;9,&#8221; and to have Eto&#8217;o gone. Wow.</p>
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		<title>By: Mat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>before Adebayor last year I meant..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>before Adebayor last year I meant..</p>
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		<title>By: Mat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sounds like fun Kxevin!!,anyways I was wanting rebuke your statements since morning :D ..but had one big presentation of mine!..I don&#039;t think you should even compare Mallorca games for Eto..of the players around him cannot be compared to that of Arsenal/Barca...secondly, even though his it would be easier for Eto&#039;o to score when Ronnie, Messi and Larson were around, but they were all &quot;taking&quot; goals away from him too..(and there&#039;s only so much you can score!!)a quick glance of goals scored by everyone in those years will tell you that...while at Arsenal..Bergkamp and more Pires were less of strikers and more of attacking mids..I am pretty sure they did not have any big striker before that to accompany him...
I think all in all its a hard comparison to make and both are awesome strikers who we need</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sounds like fun Kxevin!!,anyways I was wanting rebuke your statements since morning <img src='http://barcelona.theoffside.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  ..but had one big presentation of mine!..I don&#8217;t think you should even compare Mallorca games for Eto..of the players around him cannot be compared to that of Arsenal/Barca&#8230;secondly, even though his it would be easier for Eto&#8217;o to score when Ronnie, Messi and Larson were around, but they were all &#8220;taking&#8221; goals away from him too..(and there&#8217;s only so much you can score!!)a quick glance of goals scored by everyone in those years will tell you that&#8230;while at Arsenal..Bergkamp and more Pires were less of strikers and more of attacking mids..I am pretty sure they did not have any big striker before that to accompany him&#8230;<br />
I think all in all its a hard comparison to make and both are awesome strikers who we need</p>
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		<title>By: Isaiah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isaiah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take me with you, Kevin!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take me with you, Kevin!</p>
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		<title>By: Kxevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kxevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and since everyone else in the free world will be sporting home kit, I plan (for those looking out for me) to wear the away kit on Friday, and the keeper&#039;s shirt on Sunday. So there.  :D

And it looks like vacation will swing free enough where I&#039;ll be able to do El Clasico at the Nou Camp this year. Wifey and I figure a few days in Paris, jet over to Barcelona, back to Paris for a couple of days, then home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and since everyone else in the free world will be sporting home kit, I plan (for those looking out for me) to wear the away kit on Friday, and the keeper&#8217;s shirt on Sunday. So there.  <img src='http://barcelona.theoffside.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>And it looks like vacation will swing free enough where I&#8217;ll be able to do El Clasico at the Nou Camp this year. Wifey and I figure a few days in Paris, jet over to Barcelona, back to Paris for a couple of days, then home.</p>
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		<title>By: Kxevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kxevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like he&#039;s out for Sunday, BA. And hey, if anyone&#039;s going to the practice session at Toyota Park on Friday night (7 p.m.), I&#039;ll be there, as well.

I&#039;m kinda bummed about not seeing Messi, but I&#039;m totally geeked about the fact that everyone else will be there. My friend and I are dying to see Dani Alves in action, live and in person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like he&#8217;s out for Sunday, BA. And hey, if anyone&#8217;s going to the practice session at Toyota Park on Friday night (7 p.m.), I&#8217;ll be there, as well.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m kinda bummed about not seeing Messi, but I&#8217;m totally geeked about the fact that everyone else will be there. My friend and I are dying to see Dani Alves in action, live and in person.</p>
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		<title>By: BA</title>
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		<dc:creator>BA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good luck Santi! 

we would be idiots if we didn&#039;t sign Arshavin now. Silva&#039;s agent today said that he didn&#039;t want to leave Valencia, nor would they part with him for anything approaching a reasonable fee. Arshavin&#039;s not just our best choice for the left: he&#039;s our ONLY choice. our board needs to get over the whole Messi situation (they do seem to have tunnel vision, don&#039;t they?) and work on fleshing out our still-thin roster. time is running out.

and does anyone know if the FIFA ruling means Messi won&#039;t be available for the game in Chicago on Sunday? i would think it does, but i&#039;m hoping not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good luck Santi! </p>
<p>we would be idiots if we didn&#8217;t sign Arshavin now. Silva&#8217;s agent today said that he didn&#8217;t want to leave Valencia, nor would they part with him for anything approaching a reasonable fee. Arshavin&#8217;s not just our best choice for the left: he&#8217;s our ONLY choice. our board needs to get over the whole Messi situation (they do seem to have tunnel vision, don&#8217;t they?) and work on fleshing out our still-thin roster. time is running out.</p>
<p>and does anyone know if the FIFA ruling means Messi won&#8217;t be available for the game in Chicago on Sunday? i would think it does, but i&#8217;m hoping not.</p>
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		<title>By: Kxevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kxevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Messi is off to the Olympics, thanks to the FIFA ruling that all under-23s must report if called. He says that he would rejoin the team if they worked something out, but not happily, it sounds like. What a mess.

This was the ruling of a single judge, however. Laporta has said that we will seek a definitive ruling from the court of appeal.

In other news, Arshavin to Spurs? Rumors are that Tottenham have agreed on a price with Zenit, now that the number has come down from 25 to 17 million, and Arshavin is saying he&#039;d love to go to Spurs, of course, because he wants to be anywhere other than Zenit.

Of course, we&#039;ve all heard these rumors before. We had purportedly agreed on a price with Zenit, and we all saw where that deal went.

Meanwhile, apparently Eto&#039;o is still pissed about being told that he was surplus to requirements, according to his agent. He felt the club should have spoken to him first, rather than his having to read about it in the media.

Whatever. And then there&#039;s this Laporta quote posted by Jake in the preceding thread, which I&#039;m putting here so that it won&#039;t get lost:

“The behaviour of Samuel has been good and I’m very happy for that. Apart from the technical decisions that could be taken, I’m satisfied with the behaviour of Eto’o. The rest is the responsability of Txiki. Every team would like to have a motivated Eto’o in the squad. But some things happened so we have to make a serious analysis. We thought that selling some key players was the appropriate thing to do but in this world of football nothing is unchangeable. In the case of Eto’o, I don’t think his situation is irreversible. The technical staff will have to decide and the football arguments should prevail. The mental and physical recovery of the player will be decisive in the final decision.”

I think the real reason this is coming up at all is that nobody, and I mean NOBODY is making a serious bid for Eto&#039;o. Who knows why? High salary? Uncertainty about being able to cut it in other leagues? Attitude? Sudden fragility? All of the above? Dunno. I do know that we canNOT allow Eto&#039;o his wish, which is to play out his contract then leave on free transfer. I&#039;m sure that even the most devoted Eto&#039;o fans understand what a fiscal nightmare that would be for the side. Letting Ezquerro leave on a free is one thing. Eto&#039;o leaving on a free is something else altogether.

Most of what this shows is that if a player wants to scuttle transfer plans, he can do so. Gudjohnsen and Eto&#039;o have in effect dug their heels in, trying to grab a place in the squad by in effect refusing all offers in the case of the Icelandinc Monument, or presenting absurd salary demands in the case of the Cameroonian. I don&#039;t understand it, because being difficult isn&#039;t going to put a player in any coach&#039;s good graces, particularly one who was planning a life without said player(s).

Yaya sez that Drogba wants to come to Barcelona, which might be true, but no overtures of any significance have been made in that direction, unless you count rumormongering press folks. Of course, Yaya also wants to keep Eto&#039;o, which goes to show you what players know about team management.

And Ezquerro is officially signed with Osasuna. Best of luck to him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Messi is off to the Olympics, thanks to the FIFA ruling that all under-23s must report if called. He says that he would rejoin the team if they worked something out, but not happily, it sounds like. What a mess.</p>
<p>This was the ruling of a single judge, however. Laporta has said that we will seek a definitive ruling from the court of appeal.</p>
<p>In other news, Arshavin to Spurs? Rumors are that Tottenham have agreed on a price with Zenit, now that the number has come down from 25 to 17 million, and Arshavin is saying he&#8217;d love to go to Spurs, of course, because he wants to be anywhere other than Zenit.</p>
<p>Of course, we&#8217;ve all heard these rumors before. We had purportedly agreed on a price with Zenit, and we all saw where that deal went.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, apparently Eto&#8217;o is still pissed about being told that he was surplus to requirements, according to his agent. He felt the club should have spoken to him first, rather than his having to read about it in the media.</p>
<p>Whatever. And then there&#8217;s this Laporta quote posted by Jake in the preceding thread, which I&#8217;m putting here so that it won&#8217;t get lost:</p>
<p>“The behaviour of Samuel has been good and I’m very happy for that. Apart from the technical decisions that could be taken, I’m satisfied with the behaviour of Eto’o. The rest is the responsability of Txiki. Every team would like to have a motivated Eto’o in the squad. But some things happened so we have to make a serious analysis. We thought that selling some key players was the appropriate thing to do but in this world of football nothing is unchangeable. In the case of Eto’o, I don’t think his situation is irreversible. The technical staff will have to decide and the football arguments should prevail. The mental and physical recovery of the player will be decisive in the final decision.”</p>
<p>I think the real reason this is coming up at all is that nobody, and I mean NOBODY is making a serious bid for Eto&#8217;o. Who knows why? High salary? Uncertainty about being able to cut it in other leagues? Attitude? Sudden fragility? All of the above? Dunno. I do know that we canNOT allow Eto&#8217;o his wish, which is to play out his contract then leave on free transfer. I&#8217;m sure that even the most devoted Eto&#8217;o fans understand what a fiscal nightmare that would be for the side. Letting Ezquerro leave on a free is one thing. Eto&#8217;o leaving on a free is something else altogether.</p>
<p>Most of what this shows is that if a player wants to scuttle transfer plans, he can do so. Gudjohnsen and Eto&#8217;o have in effect dug their heels in, trying to grab a place in the squad by in effect refusing all offers in the case of the Icelandinc Monument, or presenting absurd salary demands in the case of the Cameroonian. I don&#8217;t understand it, because being difficult isn&#8217;t going to put a player in any coach&#8217;s good graces, particularly one who was planning a life without said player(s).</p>
<p>Yaya sez that Drogba wants to come to Barcelona, which might be true, but no overtures of any significance have been made in that direction, unless you count rumormongering press folks. Of course, Yaya also wants to keep Eto&#8217;o, which goes to show you what players know about team management.</p>
<p>And Ezquerro is officially signed with Osasuna. Best of luck to him.</p>
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		<title>By: Kxevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kxevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 04:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, Henry was sharing the load with Adebayor for his last season at Arsenal, and before that, Pires/Bergkamp were also very real scoring options. No, they weren&#039;t at the level of an on-form Deco/Ronaldinho/Messi, but I wouldn&#039;t be so quick to dismiss Henry&#039;s stats as a simple virtue of being the one and only.

His striker role was very different from that of Drogba, who is indeed the one and only. Every pass goes to him, every long ball goes his way. Anybody who has watched Arsenal over the years knows that it&#039;s pretty difficult to imagine a team with a style more like ours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, Henry was sharing the load with Adebayor for his last season at Arsenal, and before that, Pires/Bergkamp were also very real scoring options. No, they weren&#8217;t at the level of an on-form Deco/Ronaldinho/Messi, but I wouldn&#8217;t be so quick to dismiss Henry&#8217;s stats as a simple virtue of being the one and only.</p>
<p>His striker role was very different from that of Drogba, who is indeed the one and only. Every pass goes to him, every long ball goes his way. Anybody who has watched Arsenal over the years knows that it&#8217;s pretty difficult to imagine a team with a style more like ours.</p>
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